sequence not in the pocket

Why is it that when I sometimes sample, trim, and loop a drum pattern it sounds completely "in the pocket", and then I check parameters section for bpm count, and I record it at the said bpm into a sequence (already turning loop function off at this point), it doesn't sound in the pocket anymore? It sounds ever so slightly (very slightly) off...

Is the parameter bpm info sometimes incorrect? Sometimes it is so close, that if I either alter the tempo of the sequence by .1 or the tempo of the sample, it is even more off. It just doesn't sound like it loops well in the sequence, there is an almost molecular moment of space before the sample starts again. If I return to sample edit mode and turn loop back on, and just listen to it loop in this screen, it still sounds fine.

I haven't had the patience to keep loop function on in sequence screen adn hold my finger down on the pads, that shit will drive me insane and I don't think it will make a difference, maybe I'm wrong.

Please help me!

thx in advance.

probably because a computer does everything its told to do, perfectly. A human meanwhile does not do everything perfectly, so that sampled drum loop that came from a live drummer, is slightly imperfect

So a couple of slight chops may help?

Sometimes I copy a bit of reverb from the end of the sample and paste the extra reverb right at the end to fill that nano-second of space. It's way too small to notice and it's def still on beat.

Any other solutions would be appreciated.

Any one else run into this problem? FYI, I do chop drums up and do my own programming, but sometimes I just have that "perfect loop" and always wondered if there was something wrong with the machinery, but I guess it could be the drummer. Thanks...

Try chopping it up, then remaking the same loop, just with the seperate sounds. That way the beat stays on beat and you can change the tempo if you want, without having to trim it again and sh<i></i>it.

Peace1

hmmm..

all good suggestions so far, but the fact that the mpc bpm only counts to one decimal place might be the problem... has lead to some loop/seq accuracy issues for me already (new user)

what do the experienced folks reckon?

Pete

Try doing a time stretch on your loop if the bmp isn't perfect. Doing so will bring the sample to a bmp you know the mpc can work with.

Like everyone else that posted previously, I feel your problem really isn't a problem if it's the nature of the sample (a live drummer for instance). It's all about how it sounds that will make it work in the end.

Try inserting the loop via step edit with the pad on "note off" poly and then adjust the length to fit the measure. With step edit you can be sure that you're getting your loop in at the correct bar interval and that your sequence's timing is in-sync with the loop timing.

If all else fails, try to create the other elements for the beat and then add the loop later when you are set in a certain bpm. It’s much easier to fit a loop into a sequence than it is to dwell on how well the metronome follows it.

Hope that helps,


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