Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

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Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By Danny Scott Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:29 pm
How do yawl feel about this?

I spoke to a rep at Akai about freezes and crashes I have been encountering with my Live unit. He told me I'm probably doing something wrong because about 98 percent of reported crashes and problems are due to people not using the unit correctly.

I don't know about you but that seems a bit arrogant. I have been hearing about software problems for eons. Oh wait.... it's a consumer problem.

Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By Danny Scott Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:10 pm
Brother,

I'm not about trying to mess with an individual person on a public forum but I gotta say that's a bunch of s**t.

I have had freeze ups and drop outs with my new MPC.

Hek, how many companies put out software then revert it and go back to a previous version?



kaydigi wrote:What a piece of shyt. What was his name?

My Live has froze twice since launch, both times weren’t my fault. You heard it here first, all you X users with long boot times, it’s your fault. :Sigh:
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Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By MPC-Tutor Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:17 pm
Well, Akai keep releasing firmware updates that are listed as addressing 'bugs and stability issues', so perhaps these firmware updates somehow change all that daft customer behaviour like turning on their machines, using external drives, loading samples or trying to control MIDI devices. Just asking for trouble really. We all know that the MPC Live is best suited for just making one particular Rihanna remix. Anyone who attempts to do anything else is immediately invalidating their warranty.
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Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By distortedtekno Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:03 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:Well, Akai keep releasing firmware updates that are listed as addressing 'bugs and stability issues', so perhaps these firmware updates somehow change all that daft customer behaviour like turning on their machines, using external drives, loading samples or trying to control MIDI devices. Just asking for trouble really. We all know that the MPC Live is best suited for just making one particular Rihanna remix. Anyone who attempts to do anything else is immediately invalidating their warranty.

:lol: The more I read these topics is the more I love my 2K.

Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By chino Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:37 pm
Danny Scott wrote:I spoke to a rep at Akai about freezes and crashes I have been encountering with my Live unit. He told me I'm probably doing something wrong because about 98 percent of reported crashes and problems are due to people not using the unit correctly.

I don't know about you but that seems a bit arrogant. I have been hearing about software problems for eons. Oh wait.... it's a consumer problem.


Unfortunately, this is a standard response from Akai(inMusic Brand). It's always the end user/customer's fault! :roll:

I received the same response from them back when I owned the MPC Ren. :Sigh:

Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By chino Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:40 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote: We all know that the MPC Live is best suited for just making one particular Rihanna remix. Anyone who attempts to do anything else is immediately invalidating their warranty.


^^^THIS!!! LMAO :lol: :lol: :
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Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By Ill-Green Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:14 am
You would think the customer service at Akai would've changed since the launch of the Live/X. They still blaming the user?!! Unbelievable. They've been saying that for more than a decade now.

From what I see, Akai resourced different companies to create these devices, so some or most of the units, have issues due to various hardware differentiations. Thats why some of us have to return them to Akai so they can install the correct brands of parts.

The question leaves me, "Are these DIY units?" like Rasberry.

Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By CharlesRandolph Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:50 am
Ill-Green wrote:You would think the customer service at Akai would've changed since the launch of the Live/X. They still blaming the user?!! Unbelievable. They've been saying that for more than a decade now.

From what I see, Akai resourced different companies to create these devices, so some or most of the units, have issues due to various hardware differentiations. Thats why some of us have to return them to Akai so they can install the correct brands of parts.

The question leaves me, "Are these DIY units?" like Rasberry.


Looks like the HONEYMOON is over or is that the BETA TESTER HONEYMOON. :-D
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Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By Ill-Green Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:11 pm
After drinking the DJS-1000 lemonade, I really have nothing to complain about the MPC Live. Its sits as my DAW recording audio tracks and rendering them to wav files. I should sell the Live for the numerous other features I don't use but without a laptop, Live serves me well to get music from the DJS to the public.

Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By Danny Scott Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:55 pm
For a few hundred buck more, I think I'm gonna get a MacBook Pro and transfer all my VST's on it.

I can save a whole step rendering stuff to Wav and exploding to transfer to DAW.

I really dig the samples on Live but think there are some heavy hitting VSTI's out there with mega competition.

Ill-Green wrote:After drinking the DJS-1000 lemonade, I really have nothing to complain about the MPC Live. Its sits as my DAW recording audio tracks and rendering them to wav files. I should sell the Live for the numerous other features I don't use but without a laptop, Live serves me well to get music from the DJS to the public.

Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By CharlesRandolph Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:50 pm
Danny Scott wrote:For a few hundred buck more, I think I'm gonna get a MacBook Pro and transfer all my VST's on it.

I can save a whole step rendering stuff to Wav and exploding to transfer to DAW.

I really dig the samples on Live but think there are some heavy hitting VSTI's out there with mega competition.



The Live and MPC X are really built to accompany the Akai Software within a Laptop or Desktop system. They have the convenience of being used as a standalone, but with how Akai Pro's development is looking, standalone is not the end goal. This is the reason the Akai Software supports so many different controllers now.

You could sell the Live, buy a MPC Touch Controller (Which is the same thing without a standalone mode) and Laptop. Load your VSTi and Software recording program and be good to go. I'm not saying that these Machines do not have a place, but they do lend themselves to a certain work flow.

Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By Danny Scott Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:43 pm
I wasn't looking for something to accompany software. The purpose of my purchase was to use the Live as a mobile, standalone unit to compose entire songs and just mix it down quick with my VST eq's, etc on Studio One.

With all of the awesome software technology and samples out there. I really don't see a reason to use the Live in tandem with the software. It really defeats the purpose of the unit. You can buy a 50 dollar Akai pad controller surface and trigger incredible VSTI samples, if that's the way you like to work.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
Danny Scott wrote:For a few hundred buck more, I think I'm gonna get a MacBook Pro and transfer all my VST's on it.

I can save a whole step rendering stuff to Wav and exploding to transfer to DAW.

I really dig the samples on Live but think there are some heavy hitting VSTI's out there with mega competition.



The Live and MPC X are really built to accompany the Akai Software within a Laptop or Desktop system. They have the convenience of being used as a standalone, but with how Akai Pro's development is looking, standalone is not the end goal. This is the reason the Akai Software supports so many different controllers now.

You could sell the Live, buy a MPC Touch Controller (Which is the same thing without a standalone mode) and Laptop. Load your VSTi and Software recording program and be good to go. I'm not saying that these Machines do not have a place, but they do lend themselves to a certain work flow.

Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By CharlesRandolph Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:14 am
Danny Scott wrote:I wasn't looking for something to accompany software. The purpose of my purchase was to use the Live as a mobile, standalone unit to compose entire songs and just mix it down quick with my VST eq's, etc on Studio One.

With all of the awesome software technology and samples out there. I really don't see a reason to use the Live in tandem with the software. It really defeats the purpose of the unit. You can buy a 50 dollar Akai pad controller surface and trigger incredible VSTI samples, if that's the way you like to work.


I agree. However, as I said before, Akai is really focused on the Software side of things. They want to be in the same space as Native Instruments MASCHINE and Ableton Push. They are playing catch up to them on the software side.

But for Akai to standout from NI or Ableton, they had to cram standalone inside the MPC Touch 2.0 (MPC Live) or the MPC Renaissance 2.0 (MPC X). Then once they updated the Software, they charged MPC Touch and Ren users a price to upgrade to the MPC Software 2.0.

They also sell MPC Software 2.0 as a separate product now for 200. That's why they are adding support for so many controllers. Hardware is hard to do, expensive to replace, and the profit margins are low. However software is easier, can be be fixed with an update, and has a higher profit margin.

The LIVE and X are very capable machines, however if you're a power user. You'll find the machine is not robust enough to keep up.
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Re: Are A Majority Of MPC Users Responsible For Crashes?

By SupremeSoulstice Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:20 am
I honestly think Akai is on the right track. Some of the first batches seem to be the only units with problems. Mine with new firmware so far is perfectly fine. These units are in essence the very idea of what the MPC line is. Solid groove boxes, awesome workflow. It only makes sense to make these units that could be run without software, with the ability to integrate with software as well for those that like working that way. These firmware updates are obviously leading up to the next phase of the bigger picture. That’s perfect integration with a platform that has the potential to far succeed over any other controller/daw combo. I’m excited for the future with Akai. If I’m wrong I can still pull out my Maschine Studio from the closet and work with that inside of Ableton. I have a feeling I won’t need to do that. :-)
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