Akai Force Forum: Everything relating to the Akai Force, the iconic 64 pad, clip-based standalone sampler/groovebox from Akai.
By Eyalc Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:39 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:Disk Streaming is a great option to add, however it's still slower than loading sounds into RAM. This is one of the main reason, I used a 64 bit OS and max out the RAM. Disk streaming was great when most OS's were 32 bit and could only read a certain amount of ram. However now most OS's are 64 Bit and it will see as much RAM as you can throw at it or choose to allocate for it.

My goals are quick loading times, solid stability, and no hesitations. I aim for peak performance with the lowest possible latency. I don't want to have to adjust buffers for playback and mixing. I don't want to wait 4 minutes for Sample Set to load. Now as a test, I did push my rig to the limit, but I threw everything that I could at it.

I've worked with orchestral session and it was rare we ever went over 70 Tracks. Even then, we ended up grouping/busing most tracks down to 10 tracks anyway. Some of those mix session took 2 months to finish. :lol: :lol: :lol: Personally I still believe anyone using over 32 tracks, on a standard song have no idea what they are doing.

For the APC, I hope the Ethernet port does allows for more audio outs in standalone mode.


Great thoughts. I do the same - 64-bit OS, max ram.

I always wanted the experience of an orchestral session of that size. Must have been awesome.
By Eyalc Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:04 pm
machinesworking wrote: I might be along in hoping they only implement their own plug ins with the stand alone. I would like this thing to be as rock solid as they can make it. If I want multiple manufacturers writing code and the complexity plug power of that along with the problems and conflicts it brings, I can use the computer.


I feel the same way for the most part. I would love to use 3rd party plugins in standalone, but I agree it could (and probably would) compromise stability.

Either way, whether 3rd plugins or not, the MPC is still an essential part of my workflow, and I love working on it.
By CharlesRandolph Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:07 pm
Eyalc wrote:
Great thoughts. I do the same - 64-bit OS, max ram.

I always wanted the experience of an orchestral session of that size. Must have been awesome.


It's the best. Top musician, Top Writing, Top Room, and Top Gear. In that situations you learn lot about instrument placement, mic placement, sound stage, and patience. The recording session are relatively quick, because of the sheer amount of people and budget. The conductor and soloist would stick around for overdubs and get the mix right.

Honestly, once they finished, there was not much to mixing because the conductor did that all in the recording session. The longest part was all the different versions and edits they needed. If you have the chance just sit in on the session, it changes the idea of what music is and where it can go.

I tell you this, I would NOT enjoy doing movie score recording/edits. Ooooh Nooooo. Lots of stop, go, hurry up, wait, go, rewrite that part, go, stop, go, play that back, cue the scene, back up, go, go. :lol: and the notebooks of edit notes, amount of stems, different formats. blah blah blah! :lol:

Sorry for the rant!

Yeah APC may be a nice piece. :lol:
By Eyalc Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:28 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:
Eyalc wrote:
Great thoughts. I do the same - 64-bit OS, max ram.

I always wanted the experience of an orchestral session of that size. Must have been awesome.


It's the best. Top musician, Top Writing, Top Room, and Top Gear. In that situations you learn lot about instrument placement, mic placement, sound stage, and patience. The recording session are relatively quick, because of the sheer amount of people and budget. The conductor and soloist would stick around for overdubs and get the mix right.

Honestly, once they finished, there was not much to mixing because the conductor did that all in the recording session. The longest part was all the different versions and edits they needed. If you have the chance just sit in on the session, it changes the idea of what music is and where it can go.

I tell you this, I would NOT enjoy doing movie score recording/edits. Ooooh Nooooo. Lots of stop, go, hurry up, wait, go, rewrite that part, go, stop, go, play that back, cue the scene, back up, go, go. :lol: and the notebooks of edit notes, amount of stems, different formats. blah blah blah! :lol:

Sorry for the rant!

Yeah APC may be a nice piece. :lol:


Nice. I can imagine.

Man, you a nut. :lol: :lol:
By 6CellMag Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:14 pm
Any speculation on what this could be?

Bymember04959388 Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:29 pm
Mmm. Interesting. A Daw?
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By Danoc Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:19 am
I wonder if Akai is looking.

Play, perform and produce. The 3 P's.

Its a DAW or Keyboard Or standalone strictly MPC or badass synth.

Why in the crap would Akai waste time on a 7 second video. Crazy
By Eyalc Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:25 am
Whatever it is, half of us will think :P , and the other half will think :Sigh:

My prediction...

A keyboard / synth / workstation that works standalone (running the same software as the Live / X), or as a controller for the MPC software. Has 16 pads like the MPK line, and the same 8” touch screen that the MPC and APC Live does. Comes in 49, 61 and 88 keys (it BETTER come in an 88 key option). Allows user-mountable HDD like the Live and X for internal sample storage. Think modern-day ASR10/88. But the next generation of MPK / Advance line.

Would be a good reason for starting to integrate the AIR VST instruments into the software. And Play, Perform, Produce makes perfect sense for it.
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By Danoc Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:46 am
Lmao :lol: :lol: :lol:

Eyalc wrote:Whatever it is, half of us will think :P , and the other half will think :Sigh:

My prediction...

A keyboard / synth / workstation that works standalone (running the same software as the Live / X), or as a controller for the MPC software. Has 16 pads like the MPK line, and the same 8” touch screen that the MPC and APC Live does. Comes in 49, 61 and 88 keys (it BETTER come in an 88 key option). Allows user-mountable HDD like the Live and X for internal sample storage. Think modern-day ASR10/88. But the next generation of MPK / Advance line.

Would be a good reason for starting to integrate the AIR VST instruments into the software. And Play, Perform, Produce makes perfect sense for it.
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By mr_debauch Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:06 am
Maybe they will finally be putting out their own version of simon.. but square shaped.