Akai Force Forum: Everything relating to the Akai Force, the iconic 64 pad, clip-based standalone sampler/groovebox from Akai.
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By NearTao Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:18 pm
My question is... does the Akai Force get its own forum, or do we just drive everybody to this thread?

I know it will be a wait and see... and likely depends on feature similarities/differences... I'm just curious what the future holds.
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By MPC-Tutor Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:33 pm
NearTao wrote:My question is... does the Akai Force get its own forum, or do we just drive everybody to this thread?

I know it will be a wait and see... and likely depends on feature similarities/differences... I'm just curious what the future holds.


I've learnt to wait and see how these things pan out, but I suspect it will probably get its own sub forum.
By Unreallystic Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:28 pm
NearTao wrote:My question is... does the Akai Force get its own forum, or do we just drive everybody to this thread?

I know it will be a wait and see... and likely depends on feature similarities/differences... I'm just curious what the future holds.

I actually wondered that myself. I'd "assume" since the code base is similar and the rchitecture is similar that they will have similar pro/cons/etc, so they should be joined together...

But the different workflow - you can argue its not a MPC at all and shouldn't even have a dedicated "forum" anymore than Ableton Push.
- Unreall
By CharlesRandolph Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:04 pm
kaydigi wrote:It should get its own sub forum. If it stays here people are just going to say it’s not a real mpc in every post.


The Force maybe the first none MPC, with it's own forum. Half MPC / Half Push = MUSH :lol:
Bymember04959388 Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:25 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:
kaydigi wrote:It should get its own sub forum. If it stays here people are just going to say it’s not a real mpc in every post.


The Force maybe the first none MPC, with it's own forum. Half MPC / Half Push = MUSH :lol:

Ah ah
Mableton?
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By vwkountz Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:43 pm
The Force has 8 OLED Qlinks
MPC X has 16 OLED Qlinks
The Denon Prime 4 has 8 OLED Qlinks

The Touch , Live and Ren have old school Qlinks!

Fix: Make a 16 OLED Qlink controller Akai with a pitch / mod strip which the Force is missing.

Keep Innovating Akai, but I'm going to wait for a video from Pete and Geoff before I purchase the Force. That way I know its officially out of Beta (lol,but notice those two didn't do a video until 2.3). :popcorn:
By hellnegative Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:24 pm
Lampdog wrote:
CharlesRandolph wrote:People do use multiple effects on lots of tracks. Also, what something is meant for, is not how it will be used.
Example: People using spoons, something you eat with as a percussion instrument.

I have used a half empty box of grits with mic taped to it for creating 'shaker' samples.
It works GREAT.

Grits, eat em? Nah, SHAKE EM.


This is ingenious. Im stealing your idea, but with a box of Uncle Bens.
By hellnegative Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:31 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:
hansjbs wrote:This thread is going no where fast in the mean time just blaze is having a blast with the mpc force from the last akai video. Same Just Blaze that blasted akai over the mpc 5000. Same one that wasn't a big fan of the renaissance. Same one that enjoys the new standalone MPCs and now the force. I know he didn't get paid by akai to say the stuff he said on that video it's how he Really feels.


I do not trust anyone opinion, who received an advance machine. All videos coming out are marketing and they are under an embargo. I also don't trust any video from retail companies, who sell the device. Or so called music press, that have affiliate links to buy the machine. Or a company demo personnel, who does a so called review, on their YouTube channel.

They all are just simplified or glorified commercials, don't fall for any of it. Stop drinking the poison water. Call your local music shop and request a in store demo. Ask the company for a full white list of the specs. Get a copy of the full manual and read it. It's too easy for anyone to come here and pretend to be end user.


I noticed that the manual is not available yet and this has me weary.
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By Lampdog Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:17 pm
hellnegative wrote:This is ingenious. Im stealing your idea, but with a box of Uncle Bens.


Good ole Unc Ben. In my house I call that emergency rice, used only when I've run out of my primary rice.
By machinesworking Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:28 pm
hellnegative wrote:I noticed that the manual is not available yet and this has me weary.

Yep, definitely not getting one pre order, or until an upgrade to the OS happens for that matter.

What we've been told via Dan at Gearslutz:

-Same internals as an MPC Live/X

-Initially no computer connection, in the future extended ability to act as a control surface for Ableton Live, and ability to interact with the MPC3 software upon release, though that won't be it's "focus".

-Ability as of now to read Programs from the MPC files on a thumb disk or drive, but not Sequences.

-Ability to export templates to Ableton Live on the computer.

So to me anyway, so far this doesn't fit any gap in my current set up. I own Live Suite and Push 2, and the MPC Live. I would imagine in the future they will allow it to be a sound card for Ableton Live when in controller mode, but to me it seems like they're done with the software for the most part for the Force, but not done enough to release MPC 3.0, so the Force gets no interface with the computer at all really, until v3 is done.

NAMM is in less than 24 hours, we should know whether MPC 2.4 will drop, hopefully it does with some clip launching improvements. My least favorite part about Force is that it's possible they sandbox parts of the MPC software off just for Force, and we in MPC land get minimal changes to Clip launching in Clip Tracks..
By CharlesRandolph Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:09 pm
machinesworking wrote:
hellnegative wrote:I noticed that the manual is not available yet and this has me weary.

Yep, definitely not getting one pre order, or until an upgrade to the OS happens for that matter.

What we've been told via Dan at Gearslutz:

-Same internals as an MPC Live/X

-Initially no computer connection, in the future extended ability to act as a control surface for Ableton Live, and ability to interact with the MPC3 software upon release, though that won't be it's "focus".

-Ability as of now to read Programs from the MPC files on a thumb disk or drive, but not Sequences.

-Ability to export templates to Ableton Live on the computer.

So to me anyway, so far this doesn't fit any gap in my current set up. I own Live Suite and Push 2, and the MPC Live. I would imagine in the future they will allow it to be a sound card for Ableton Live when in controller mode, but to me it seems like they're done with the software for the most part for the Force, but not done enough to release MPC 3.0, so the Force gets no interface with the computer at all really, until v3 is done.



At 1 minute 14 Seconds USB is connect to a computer. :lol:
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By machinesworking Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:44 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:At 1 minute 14 Seconds USB is connect to a computer. :lol:
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You know of course that's not indicative of anything really.
Never said the Force wasn't ever going to be able to be used with a computer. "Initially no computer connection" was prompted by Dan at Gearlsutz, among other readings of what will be available now, to you as an end user, not a beta tester.

Besides, that all he seems to be doing is loading in his for sale MPC Kits, something already mentioned, not a huge reach to think that initially the Force before 3.0 drops will at least be able to read discs on a computer for accessing Programs and kits.

I want to be wrong about this, I'm just going off of what I've read and been told by representatives from AKIA, but I'm not entirely sure why you would want to gloat about a USB cable?