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By Scheme Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:10 am
listen man this is the skinny on thos e disks... hake a regular 1.4 k disk and cover up that lil hole on the right hand side with scoth tape just be sure not to leave any inside ya drive!!!!
( just opposite of the copy protection sliding window) when u format in an mpc with that window closed it will format and allow you to save just as a 720 disk would , ive done this a zillion times...

arctec wrote:I'm having a similar dilemma - can't seem to transfer frpm OSX/XP or Win98 to the MPC.

I need DD 720 disks right? And do these work in a "normal" floppy drive? or do I need to shell out for a new drive?

:?:

By elmacaco Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:50 pm
probably hwy your 60 is actin up.

By djames Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:51 pm
this is straight from the Roger Linn Site:

Q: I find it difficult to find low density floppy disks for the MPC60. Can I use High Density disks?

A: The correct floppy disks to use in the MPC60 are double sided, double density (DS/DD). These disks are difficult to find because of the greater popularity of high-density disks (HD). If you can't find any DS/DD disks, you may use HD disks instead.

NOTE: If you take an HD floppy that has been formatted in the MPC60 and try to read it in an MPC3000, the MPC3000 will tell you that the disk is bad or not formatted. If this happens, simply cover the HD hole in the lower right corner of the disk with opaque tape. (This hole is located on the same edge of the disk as the "HD" emblem, and unlike the other "write protect" hole, has no sliding window.) This will trick the MPC3000 into thinking that the floppy is a DS/DD disk and will then be able to read it.

I have said this again and again they do not produce 720kb DD disk drives anymore, the replacement drives that people are paying $150 and up for at places like Forat are indeed 1.44 HD floppy drives to be exact they are TEAC FD-235HF drives with special jumper settings. I have even posted a picture of the jumper settings. If prolonged use of HD disk would damage your drive don't you think Mr. Linn would have noted that in the above response. This may have been true about the original floppy drives that came stock with these units, but the newer drives can read any type of floppy disk.
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By Scheme Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:28 pm
exactly cover the hole!
djames wrote:this is straight from the Roger Linn Site:

Q: I find it difficult to find low density floppy disks for the MPC60. Can I use High Density disks?

A: The correct floppy disks to use in the MPC60 are double sided, double density (DS/DD). These disks are difficult to find because of the greater popularity of high-density disks (HD). If you can't find any DS/DD disks, you may use HD disks instead.

NOTE: If you take an HD floppy that has been formatted in the MPC60 and try to read it in an MPC3000, the MPC3000 will tell you that the disk is bad or not formatted. If this happens, simply cover the HD hole in the lower right corner of the disk with opaque tape. (This hole is located on the same edge of the disk as the "HD" emblem, and unlike the other "write protect" hole, has no sliding window.) This will trick the MPC3000 into thinking that the floppy is a DS/DD disk and will then be able to read it.

I have said this again and again they do not produce 720kb DD disk drives anymore, the replacement drives that people are paying $150 and up for at places like Forat are indeed 1.44 HD floppy drives to be exact they are TEAC FD-235HF drives with special jumper settings. I have even posted a picture of the jumper settings. If prolonged use of HD disk would damage your drive don't you think Mr. Linn would have noted that in the above response. This may have been true about the original floppy drives that came stock with these units, but the newer drives can read any type of floppy disk.

By mpc3000 Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:47 am
I really do not understand the problem. People own a $700-$1200 piece of equipment, a $150 DD drive, but still refuse to go find basically a free box of DD disks?

The MPC60 was designed only with DD disks (actually that was the largest floppy drive to date), so it only makes sense to use what the machine was designed for. Someone who does not go out and find a box of DD disks is being only lazy or does not give a darn about their equipment.

Unless you have a spare backup MPC60, or do not actually make a living with your MPC, then you can do whatever you like. Some people live by the machine and they do not take any chances when it comes to the only method to save and load data into the machine that pays the bills.

I took a trip to the local school board and they gave me a box of DD for free.

By djames Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:27 am
mpc3000 wrote:
I took a trip to the local school board and they gave me a box of DD for free.


Do they have anymore, if so what's the address? If not are you passing these disks along to us lazy, non-career oriented, wannabe producers that don't mind wrecking our $150 "DD" (eventhough the TEAC FD-235HF is clearly a "HD" drive) floppy drives! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By madcowboy Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:44 pm
Hi, just a quick post from an experienced "newbie" in the UK on PCs and MPC Drives.
I must strongly agree with the above statements from elmacaco.

ONLY USE DD FLOPPIES !!!!!!

As stated HD don't hold the data as well and can easily be corrupted infact data can be lost completely its appears on screen as being on your disk but it ain't there !!, this has been my experience don't take risks with vital loops and data !!!!!.

USE DD DISKS !!

PEACE
:)
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By Lampdog Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:20 pm
drumat!c wrote:And it's true that HD and DD are basically the same. HD is just double the capacity. Other than that there are no differences. It's what i'm told.

DRUMAT!C


They are not the same. 2 sides of the disk right. One side has been tested and one has not. That little window on the disk is the difference.
If you save to the untested side there is no guarantee that your data is safe/usuable. People alter those disks all the time without knowing the difference. Correct me if I'm wrong.

By elmacaco Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:58 am
the magnetics involved are also very different and you can burn out your drive and get easily corruptable data using HD disks in a dd drive.

By djames Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:22 am
I hate to admit it, but I just lost like 12 sequences because I was using HD disk I believe. When I try to load them it tells me I need the newest OS and I'm using 3.10 LOL, I was mad at first but anything I made I can remake probably better the second time. Finally got SCSI anyway so fuc it ;)

By elmacaco Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:33 am
DJAMES ROCKIN SCSI NOW????

Yall better watch out!!

Congrats yo.

By elmacaco Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:41 am
Testify!!!

It's great isn't it?