Synth suggestions

Cockdiesel wrote:Some synths yes. A lot of analogs don’t have patch memory. Honestly a micro korg, akai mini ak, Alesis ion, and a few others seem like they would work good at a cheap price point.

When you save patches you can just load them up like you do with programs.

Most analogs you would have to dial in the sound again but they arnt as hard to program, still might be a pain in the butt.

Check some of them out. You get bread and butter sounds out of them. So you have basses, pads, leads all in one and they are poly phonic and a few multi timbral ( you can program a few patches on top of each from the Mpc by switching midi channels.

You can record them in to your Mpc and chop them up like you’ve been doing or you can track them out along with the Mpc through a mixer or interface with enough inputs.

What are you recording your Mpc into?

Lampdog wrote:What model casio kybd?
I wanna look it up and see pictures.

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Cockdiesel wrote:Moog Taurus isn’t much more than a behringer. Agree about the moog apps, I liked the model d app way more than the behringer model d I had.

Personally I’d go moog all day over any behringer. Taurus/siren have patch memory as well.

I may be somewhat biased because next analog I plan on getting is the siren.

Just let us know more details. There’s plenty used stuff you can cheap out there

I can't in good conscious not say anything. In my personal and very strong opinion, Moog Taurus is kinda overrated and Siren is meh, like seriously, it's a waste of money.

I'm not saying they're wack, because they are not.

They are, however, overpriced and I can't value them over something else that costs less and performs great.

The hardcore truth is you're just paying for the Moog name of synths which are ironically built with Behringer parts.

I very recently traded my Moog Siren which I had for a few weeks for an API Lunchbox and 2 CAPI pres with my friend who I warned several times before we made our trade, is basically a sucker's deal. His response was he'll just trade it for something else if it doesn't work out for him. I hope we're still friends when he realizes how meh it is.

Moog is a brand we've grown up knowing, but they are not all to be all of the analog synths. The only reason they cost more is because they are an employees owned company that assembles their products by hand.

But the Behringer synths are built very well and most importantly they sound great and they have very reasonable prices. For me, you're getting more bang for the buck.

I'm hoping to trade my Korg MS-20 Mini for my friend's Behringer MS-1 soon because my K-2 is dope, but he's not ready to let go of his MS-1, but I have my fingers crossed...

*Also if you don't mind having a bit of a metallic sound in your bass, consider the Arturia MiniBrute 2S which is a pretty versatile synth but as I said, a bit metal sounding...*

Cockdiesel wrote:No qc issues with behringer products here. Just wasn’t that impressed with it. Saying they “use the same parts” is a simplified response that doesn’t take into account the actual engineering of the product.....

Do you get the same amount of drive, that doesn’t distort? Are envelopes the same? How about the presence and body of the actual oscillators-?

You can make a saw wave sound pretty close to another saw wave.... it’s all the other parts that make a synth. Please stop with the childish arguments. If they work good for you, that’s great.

Behringer getting the filter chip factory is a recent thing... and even then I thought the model d’s filter was one of the wackiest filters I have ever used.

Run some audio through both the mother 32 and crave filters.... you May see what I’m talking about.. The difference was night and day to me. Not trying to hate because I would still cop a behringer but it wouldn’t be for the filter that’s forsure.

Although the 2600 demo you posted, it seemed to have a ALOT better of filter but it’s over YouTube so who knows. Plus they can only get better at this...

Cockdiesel wrote:We know how we both feel let’s not ruin this guys thread.

TheDoctor wrote:I strongly recommend to avoid Behringer. I owned 2 of their synths, they're half baked. The circuitry is there but the calibration and attention to details make you frustrated, if you know what you're doing. Unreliable pulse width, unstable pitch(it's not because is analog, they drift a lot in 30 mins), weird gainstage, just a mess.

If you want a nice cheap analog bass synth go for Korg Monologue, the keys are not super small, nice sequencer(you can step sequence parameters), slide, nice and stable sounding osc, the filter is amazing, subtle overdrive, battery powered. It's a monster! It'll shake your room watch the Andertons comparison on YouTube with a Moog.
I like the sound of Neutron and Crave, after all the CEM3340 is insane but I end up having more fun with my simpler Monologue because it just works and you're not looking for weird behaviour or get frustrated because the attenuator are calibrated poorly, my DIY module works better.
Monologue can make nice sound, I'm having fun create pad style sound, auto sample in the MPC and play it polyphonically. If you got a Live you have a powerful portable set up.
I got mine second hand for £130!!!

TheDoctor wrote:The problem with Behringer unit is not the components itself. The circuitry is almost identical, it's the calibration and quality control that make a big difference. Sure they can make similar sound or perhaps sound identical but a synth is not something static, the sound itself comes by playing with those pots. I couldn't get pleasant results with Behringer synth, it's possible just uncomfortable. Sometimes you find your Attack change a lot from 0 to 2 and almost nothing 3 to 10. Some weird choice on making VCA linear instead of exponential. Weird waveform gainstage. I mean these people don't even know that they should lower the square because it's the hottest,you can't switch waveform without crazy change in volume.
Yeah you go a synth that sounds like iconic synth but you can't play as the original unit but even worse you can't play it like another synth. Korg for example has nice calibration for their pots. Behringer just put heavy pots to give you the professional feeling.