Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By CharlesRandolph Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:13 pm
Monotremata wrote:
CharlesRandolph wrote:The DT990 Pro have a slight scoop in the mid range to me.


Yeah I haven't had em long enough or used em anywhere near enough to get used to em yet. If I start eq'ing with them on, stuff sounds kind of weird when I go back to the monitors. They're great for balancing though. Problems seem to stick right out that I never notice in the Tannoys.


Eqing in head phones are always tough. As @DANOC stated ear fatigue can and will set in faster while mixing in headphones. You have to be diligent with the listening levels, because people tend to crank them. When I do small tweaks in headphones, I always use cross-feed simulations, because the stereo field in headphones sounds unnatural. Unless, the mix is actually designed for the headphone experience.
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By NearTao Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:28 pm
+1

It's always a good idea to listen on multiple speaker sources anyways just so you get an idea of different ways the song might sound. Your mixes will absolutely sound different in your car, your headphones, on mixing speakers, in the club... etc... If you ever plan on playing live remember this... because it is critical to know that you're going to have variance and need to make adjustments in the context of where you are playing.

If you're just mixing for fun though... have fun :D
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By Danoc Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:49 pm
The war of: Can you mix in headphones has been long over.
CONCLUSION , YES YOU CAN.

You cannot mix in just any headphones though. If you don't have a treated room there are headphones that will act as a treated room. I have been using the Sennheiser HD 600, and have been mixing in headphones since 2004. My ear is trained, plus l understand the variable of ear fatigue.

You have to get the right headphones and they will cost more than the average headphones. Your headphones should be balanced with the highs, mids and lows. If one is higher than the other you should not use them to mix only for your llistening pleasure. They should be open back and not closed back noise canceling headphone.

Headphones have advanced to where you can hear left and right and 360 degrees in the stereo field. The direct sound is isolated in headphones and not on monitors. Amateur beat makers who mix on monitors don't have knowledge how to set their monitors and how to set themselves in the "SWEET SPOT". They don't have the knowledge of cutting out frequencies nor gain staging.

In the sweet spot your monitors should be ear level, your monitors should be turned in at an angle where you're sitting in the middle and you turn each one where you can't see the sides of either monitor. (Example below). In headphones you don't have to worry about that, with the right headphones you'll feel as though you're in a treated room.

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The sound emanating from each speaker blends together a little bit in the air. This phenomenon is called crossfeed. Putting you in the sweet spot or what is known as CROSSFEED. There are some interesting plugins that can simulate the effect of crossfeed in your DAW, Just be aware of your panning and the width of your sources in the stereo field and you won’t have a problem, don’t be afraid to pan wide! I use the Binaural effect in S1v4 and a few others that are really dope.

This the main reason for me going entirely INSIDE THE BOX. Being ITB elinates noise floor. Humming from having many pieces of gear plugged up and hissing. This cause you to bring levels higher to bypass the noise floor. I don't have to do that. Two factors come to mind, knowledge of mixing and practicing over and over! When l take my mixes to the major studio it sounds amazing, some people that are there ask where did l mix my track l tell them in my house and headphones. They look at me weird. I still reference my music in a car or my monitors to see if anything is outta wack.

Having a higher ohm's value can boost your headphones and make your sounds, sound fuller. :smoker:
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By Lampdog Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:57 pm
Danoc wrote:I still reference my music in a car or my monitors to see if anything is outta wack.
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By Neurone Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:20 pm
Binaural.
Stereo recordings do not take into account the natural ambiophonic crosstalk in your environment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_recording

There are plugins that can turn stereo into binaural though.

https://www.blueripplesound.com/products/binaural-surround

Some are cheaper though...
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By Danoc Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:45 pm
@Nuerone, this exactly what l said.
"I use Binaural in S1V4 ", which is a plugin inside of S1v4. I use it to further widen my stereo imaging beyond normal stereo imaging to separate instruments and vocals in a song. Perceived listening, from .0 to 50% or 160% to 200% for best results.
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By Danoc Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:55 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:The war of: Can you mix in headphones has been long over.
CONCLUSION, Not for 4.1 and up mixes. :lol:

:lol: :lol:
But you can mix in 4.1 and up, Waves got the goods.

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"Want to mix for 7.1, 5.1 or 5.0 surround on your regular stereo headphones? Nx lets you do exactly that – a revolution in surround mixing."

"Want to create great mixes but don’t have an acoustically perfect room? Need to mix on the road? This plugin recreates the acoustics of a high-end studio inside your headphones, so you can make great mixing decisions anytime, anywhere."


https://www.waves.com/plugins/nx?fo_c=1 ... sUQAvD_BwE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LE922m7ohI
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By CharlesRandolph Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:37 pm
Danoc wrote:
CharlesRandolph wrote:The war of: Can you mix in headphones has been long over.
CONCLUSION, Not for 4.1 and up mixes. :lol:

:lol: :lol:
But you can mix in 4.1 and up, Waves got the goods.

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"Want to mix for 7.1, 5.1 or 5.0 surround on your regular stereo headphones? Nx lets you do exactly that – a revolution in surround mixing."

"Want to create great mixes but don’t have an acoustically perfect room? Need to mix on the road? This plugin recreates the acoustics of a high-end studio inside your headphones, so you can make great mixing decisions anytime, anywhere."


https://www.waves.com/plugins/nx?fo_c=1 ... sUQAvD_BwE


That's not the same experience. :lol:
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By Danoc Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:38 pm
NearTao wrote:Or send your beats to @Danoc to mix... hopefully he charges a fair price :D

:lol: hey l do that for real. Thank you for the free comedic promotion :nod: :lol:

I would charge him $30 for a musical mix and $50 for one track including vocals. :worthy: thank you