dr. dre

people need to understand that there are producers in the traditional sense, producer/songwriters, and your beatmaker/onemanband. and of course, people can be any combination of those just mentioned.

The Mutha was one of the first hip hop producers to get a grammy, own his shit, bring in top dollars, get respect for the game from the outsiders even Quincy Jones gave him some dap and inspire a generation of wannabes beatmakers 10 yrs strong as least and this is the thanks he gets!!! *****please.

Not overated! Dre 2001 is a masterpiece!!!

The guy has always re-invented himself and stayed ahead of the game. I think its gonna be hard for him to stay on top in the present day as there are so many ill producers like Timo etc, but I am looking forward to seeing what he does in the next year or so.

He's already proved he's up there, if he can up his game again in the modern day, surely he will be worth the praise???

Edit, Jury is still out for me on some of the latest stuff to come outta his camp, but im sure they will hit something big soon, he always does!

en2 wrote:

DaSoof wrote:he does rely on other peoples help in the studio though

thats why hes the illest "producer" and youre still a beatmaker

word!

Lampdog wrote:Neither one of those tracks moved me.

wait till u hear the remixes for both joints big imporvment

Even though I am not, but you guys name me the #1 Dre hater, but I always say he's overrated... and now after hearing GAME's album, Dre is really knocking me on my ass man, he has some real fine work on here, part of which is knowing when to step back and let other producers shine, like Just Blaze and Timbaland.... and the dre stuff is fire on this album... he redeemed himself here. Let's see if he keeps it consistent...

Dre is a f*ckin genius when it comes to production... Say what you want and obviously I'm not gonna change anybody's opinion, but he is light years ahead of every other producer out there... He knows exactly what he wants from a project and does exactly what needs to be done to get it... He changes his style up to fit the MC he's producing, but at the same time he keeps a common sound or style so you always know it's a Dre track... He picks out his drums and is so nit-pciky about every aspect of the quality of his sounds... Sonically his beats are perfect... I'm even into that gritty East Coast sound, but his beats are clean and yet still grimey street sh*t...

Listen to the track with Mary J. Blige on The Game's album... That track is so different from anybody else's style and it's really creative and a great track musically speaking...

Like a few people said... He is a producer because he knows when to step back and let someone else shine...

Which brings up another point... Too many people on this site get the definition of a producer twisted... A producer is NOT someone who programs beats on an MPC, or lays out chords on a Triton. Sh*t, he may not even be the person who twists the knobs on the console...

A producer is a person who is in charge of the creative vision of a project... He books studio time, lines up studio musicians, hires engineers, and is in control of how the project sounds, whether he does that or he simply gives his input to the engineer or mastering engineer...

Dr. Dre is by this definiton probably the most comprehensive producer in the game right now... I mean honestly you think Bob Rock writes all the music for Metallica or plays their instruments... You think all these rock and soul producers do everything... F*ck NO... Are they any less of a producer... F*ck NO...

I mean if you ain't feelin his style that's a nother story... But too many people hate on the man cause they think he isn't a "real" producer... Thats probably the weakest argument I ever heard...

Also, check The Game's album cause that album is a hip-hop classic from start to finish... If everybody had those standards for their music... Hip-hop wouldn't be in the sad state that it's in right now...

I thought Dre and that NWA camp were geniuses back in the day when the first three NWA and related albums came outta their camp. So, I don't necessarily think he's overrated, but he's definitely over discussed by producers, beatmakers and musicians.

I think back a few years ago after the first Aftermath lp dropped and folks thought he fell off. The choice of Eminem saved his career, or at least bank rolled his operation. That's it in a nutshell. Has nothing to do with his skills or craft. Nope, but what we spend most of our time talking about is really commercial success and record sales. Without the sales anybody eventually becomes irrelevant. I really believe that Dre loves what he does and he would still be working even if he didn't have Em.

The sad thing about this era and the interesting thing about musicians of the past was that there were more artists and producers and they were diverse and spread out all over the country. Record sales didn't determine if people worked at something. Record sales didn't determine if you were good, at least not within your own head and not necessarily in the musicians community. Dre knew he was dope even when he wasn't dope and his strength has been that he hasn't counted on us to tell him that.

I bet Dre remembers when people thought he fell off. Nobody in interviews has asked him what that feels like now. Hmmmmm? Remember that Ice Cube track, "Get Off My D#ck and Tell your B#tch To Come Here?"

Peace.

homershines wrote:I thought Dre and that NWA camp were geniuses back in the day when the first three NWA and related albums came outta their camp. So, I don't necessarily think he's overrated, but he's definitely over discussed by producers, beatmakers and musicians.

I think back a few years ago after the first Aftermath lp dropped and folks thought he fell off. The choice of Eminem saved his career, or at least bank rolled his operation. That's it in a nutshell. Has nothing to do with his skills or craft. Nope, but what we spend most of our time talking about is really commercial success and record sales. Without the sales anybody eventually becomes irrelevant. I really believe that Dre loves what he does and he would still be working even if he didn't have Em.

The sad thing about this era and the interesting thing about musicians of the past was that there were more artists and producers and they were diverse and spread out all over the country. Record sales didn't determine if people worked at something. Record sales didn't determine if you were good, at least not within your own head and not necessarily in the musicians community. Dre knew he was dope even when he wasn't dope and his strength has been that he hasn't counted on us to tell him that.

I bet Dre remembers when people thought he fell off. Nobody in interviews has asked him what that feels like now. Hmmmmm? Remember that Ice Cube track, "Get Off My D#ck and Tell your B#tch To Come Here?"

Peace.

Was that " No Vaseline" the Dre and Easy Dis track

DRE WORDS


CAUSE I BEEN IN THE LAB WITH A PEN AND PAD TRYING TO GET THIS DAM LABLE OFF THIS IS THE MILLENUM OF AFTERMATH GIVE ONE MORE PLATIUM PLAQUE AND **** RAP YOU HAVE IT BACK.[quote]

Blue Haze wrote: Was that " No Vaseline" the Dre and Easy Dis track

No. It's about fans. I think it's from the first album and there's also a remix on "Kill At Will."

Peace.

FROGTOWN wrote:DRE WORDS


CAUSE I BEEN IN THE LAB WITH A PEN AND PAD TRYING TO GET THIS DAM LABLE OFF THIS IS THE MILLENUM OF AFTERMATH GIVE ONE MORE PLATIUM PLAQUE AND **** RAP YOU HAVE IT BACK.

i dont really think he actually had a pen and a pad, he has many ghostwriters and also people who play instruments, royce da 5'9 for one was involved in chronic 2001 ghostin his ish... he has such a big name though that just on that hes gonna move units like the cat that did the fire track for lloyd banks and eminem added the match sound and suddenly its produced by em... i agree dre is a genius producer but candyshop is straight garbage

homershines wrote:The choice of Eminem saved his career, or at least bank rolled his operation. That's it in a nutshell. Has nothing to do with his skills or craft.

That's a retarded comment if I ever heard one... The pick of Eminem was part of his talent... Dre has that "golden ear"... Picking up Em was the talent the same way one of us findin that "perfect" sample for our tracks is our talent...

Dr. Dre ain't all that. I could make Dre beatz anyday, but I choose to do my own style ya digg!!

I bet none of ya'll ****** could duplicate a dre track and give the same complexity that he has, I mean the way he layers his shit is **** amazing. Dre may not be playing the keys or insturments most of the time, but he is writting alot of the music and has musicans play it, I just think cats are mad because they didn't think of it first.