CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

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Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By CharlesRandolph Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:58 pm
Danoc wrote:You know why? Cause they think you can be a hit producer iver night and get millions, and their friends done told them THAT SH.T HARD AS FUGG, LISTEN TO THOSE 808S" whuch is distorted like a mug.


That's the truth for many genres. It's one thing to use distortions as an artistic effect and it's another thing not knowing what they're doing.
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Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:17 pm
With the distortion l heard was not effects, but it was about to effect those dam monitors in the stoo lol They bust those monitors in the stoo they won't be able to pay for them. Dudes barely bathe!
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Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By Lampdog Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:34 pm
Danoc wrote:Dudes barely bathe!


Young producer:
My beat FILTHY aint it!?

Danoc:
HhHHhnnnnope: That’s YOU moefucca!
Get ya swamp ass up outta here!

Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By CharlesRandolph Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:07 pm
Danoc wrote:With the distortion l heard was not effects, but it was about to effect those dam monitors in the stoo lol They bust those monitors in the stoo they won't be able to pay for them. Dudes barely bathe!


That's what happens when someone listens to over compressed music. Their ear gravitate towards that, until they're exposed to better techniques to achieve the sound.
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Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:43 pm
Blaaaaah lol OMG :shock: YO LAMP true story like 2013 l think. Im on Youtube and saw a young producer rockin. He is lightskinned, so he gettin it on the beat. The camera man moved in on his inner ear. There was so much wax oozing outta his ear it looked like he was bleeding lol :lol: the comment section lit his arse on fire lol
Dude wasn't cleaning his ears. These guys think being dirty is cool. Pants saggin etc is the worse.
Lampdog wrote:
Danoc wrote:Dudes barely bathe!


Young producer:
My beat FILTHY aint it!?

Danoc:
HhHHhnnnnope: That’s YOU moefucca!
Get ya swamp ass up outta here!

Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By Unreallystic Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:47 pm
eh, the not reading the manual thing isn't some stuck up sentiment.

If you've used a couple DAWs, you can navigate around pretty much all of them, speedy? No, but you can get around enough that you'll learn the rest over time. So you spend however much to get a piece of gear - your first instinct is to immediately try and enjoy your purchase, this is magnified further when the manual(s) can be so large that they look like a huge time sync - for something you think would be pick up and go. Then, you try and go through the manual, but it cna be so much information, in a cruel format - that frankly you walk away not any better.

I'm not saying don't read the manual, but I'm not going to bash people for not leaping to the manual and/or memorizing it.

The real issue IMO is that knowledge base for a lot of this gear simply isn't great. They got much better over time, but initially the Akai made/sponsored videos for their gear was lackluster. In the day and age of "google it", you don't come across the answers you are looking for when you do, the first page of Google will be filled with ads to purchase said product, product reviews, and forum post of people asking the exact same questions, rarely with a quality answer.
- Unreall
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Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:51 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:That's what happens when someone listens to over compressed music. Their ear gravitate towards that, until they're exposed to better techniques to achieve the sound.

Compressed? Those dudes like that don't know how to use a compressor lol they just turn it up and think its lit lol haaaahahaaa.

I barely use much compression. I use it to help my kick duck the bass so they both can coexists in the same stereo field and sound cohesively.

Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By CharlesRandolph Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:01 pm
Danoc wrote:Compressed? Those dudes like that don't know how to use a compressor lol they just turn it up and think its lit lol haaaahahaaa.


They copy the music they listen to the most, like we all do. It's just about showing them so they can improve. But the industry is pushing, everything under the sun. They care about image and marketing, over music and the craft.
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Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By CharlesRandolph Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:59 pm
bees80 wrote:Cheers, i'll do that for you then :nod:


People can be visual, auditory, reading/writing, and kinesthetic learner or a combination of them all. So telling someone to read the manual, will not help them. Typical manuals are written from the perspective, that a person already knows how to use the machine. That's why they're called reference manuals, so we can refer back to them for things we've forgotten, not for things we've haven't learned yet.
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Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By NearTao Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:09 pm
Yoooo... I stopped paying attention to this thread after page 3... you guys are dropping hot fire. Glad I caught up.

Up there with the compression gripes... I just shake my head watching folks trying to force a song into an EQ curve because their favorite producer averages out to that. This weird sense of forced dynamics, tones, etc... while I get it... there are no shortcuts to getting these sounds, just solid engineering practices and techniques.

Technology absolutely makes it so you can do a lot more in your first hour of making music... but you still need to put in those thousands of hours if you want to really learn the craft. For me, I'm not in it for the money... I'm in it to learn and have fun. My skills are not financially motivated... so it spins my knowledge in ways that are not always compatible with somebody going at it from a purely capital standpoint.

But I get it... I've spent 20+ years using this stuff... if I've only got 30-60 minutes to bang out something, is it really going to be that much better than the young pup who's just noodling around on it? The real difference is I'm going to ignore focusing on a bunch of things because I know to... the young pup is probably ignoring it because they don't know any better.

Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By CharlesRandolph Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:33 pm
Agree, the craft is living organism and like us, it's constantly evolving. This is why great composer, do not always make a great conductors and those great conductors do not make great musicians, librarians, or arrangers. Some of us have the skill to do them all, however one of those skill sets, will dominate.

This is one reason, I like gear that does one or two things and does them well. I can sit on 96 channel console and have all 96 channels in use. But those 96 are going to bussed/grouped down 8. :nod: No one in their right mind is going to try to mix using 96 separate tracks with 96 faders.

We are in an accelerated world of information, but no matter has fast the information comes. Our experience to learn how to use, the information is going to take time.



NearTao wrote:Yoooo... I stopped paying attention to this thread after page 3... you guys are dropping hot fire. Glad I caught up.

Up there with the compression gripes... I just shake my head watching folks trying to force a song into an EQ curve because their favorite producer averages out to that. This weird sense of forced dynamics, tones, etc... while I get it... there are no shortcuts to getting these sounds, just solid engineering practices and techniques.

Technology absolutely makes it so you can do a lot more in your first hour of making music... but you still need to put in those thousands of hours if you want to really learn the craft. For me, I'm not in it for the money... I'm in it to learn and have fun. My skills are not financially motivated... so it spins my knowledge in ways that are not always compatible with somebody going at it from a purely capital standpoint.

But I get it... I've spent 20+ years using this stuff... if I've only got 30-60 minutes to bang out something, is it really going to be that much better than the young pup who's just noodling around on it? The real difference is I'm going to ignore focusing on a bunch of things because I know to... the young pup is probably ignoring it because they don't know any better.
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Re: CME XKEY 37 & MPC Live COMBO!

By bees80 Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:40 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:
bees80 wrote:Cheers, i'll do that for you then :nod:


People can be visual, auditory, reading/writing, and kinesthetic learner or a combination of them all. So telling someone to read the manual, will not help them. Typical manuals are written from the perspective, that a person already knows how to use the machine. That's why they're called reference manuals, so we can refer back to them for things we've forgotten, not for things we've haven't learned yet.


Sure. Though I honestly think the MPC live manual is pretty well written. Of course it has something to do with a person's ability to understand it. I guess for a lot of people it is easier to ask then to look for themselves. And I'm not only talking about gearporn here. I sometimes feel people are lazier and acting less smart then they really are or could be.
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