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By bees80 Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:55 pm
NearTao wrote:
bees80 wrote:I sometimes feel people are lazier and acting less smart then they really are or could be.


While I tend to agree... it is also same as it ever was :)

Here's a link https://www.guitar9.com/column/10-tips-lazy-musicians


Is it? I'd dare to say that technology did help to make people more lazy. But.. we could do a little time-battle. I work on a new macbook pro with ableton, and you on an mpc60. (or viceversa, fine with me too). We both get 15 minutes.

(nice article by the way!)
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By NearTao Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:22 pm
bees80 wrote:
Is it?

People are just lazy in general... so yeah... while technology makes it easier... I'm pretty sure if you just measured the general consensus from generation to generation overall it'd be that the next generation is lazier than the last.

While the MPC 60 vs Ableton seems fun at first... I wonder if a huge sample collection is an advantage, or having to work with limited memory keeps you laser focused.
By CharlesRandolph Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:47 pm
bees80 wrote:
Sure. Though I honestly think the MPC live manual is pretty well written. Of course it has something to do with a person's ability to understand it. I guess for a lot of people it is easier to ask then to look for themselves. And I'm not only talking about gear porn here. I sometimes feel people are lazier and acting less smart then they really are or could be.


It's really not about acting less smart. Some people just do not learn from manual. It's like musicians who can sight read music, but can't play by ear and vice versa.

If asked you, can you transpose this piece to B♭3 for flugelhorn. (This is only assuming you can't read music.) Does that make you Lazy or not smart because you can't do it? If you've played music for +10 years, this should be really easy right? You ask for help, and I tell you to read the notation it's all there.



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By Danoc Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:03 am
You know what's funny l remember not knowing anything but could could play the music. I never went to school to read music and lm glad I didn't. There's a story of that.
When you get an artist to tell you to do a triad and the root note is natural C to get to the next chord its embarrassing not to know.
So l learned and leanring the chord letters, flat, sharp etc helped to work faster. :mrgreen:
Like the signal markers under the C note l can't read but l know C note Eb=E-flat etc. See l can read your staff like that.

So people do have to learn and not stay stagnated.
I'll say, being able to read is a necessity in everyday functions knowing how to tead a staff is not for typical person.
I have a home girl a top rank classical pianist. She can only play if there is a staff in front of her. She couldn't make a track without sheet music to save her life. She envy me cause of that. I can sit down and compose music on the fly with sheet music. From your sheet music you have Em=E-minor, G, D, C etc. It doesn't look complicated but ask me like 6 years ago it looks like Paleo Hebrew lol
For moods of the chords will set the melodies in a scale.
Like Dorian mode, Major, Minor, Phygian, Pentatonic, Diminishined, Suspended , Diatonic etc. When l leraned these things l was like :WTF: is all this. When learned and applied my music automatically changed.


CharlesRandolph wrote:It's really not about acting less smart. Some people just do not learn from manual. It's like musicians who can sight read music, but can't play by ear and vice versa.

If asked you, can you transpose this piece to B♭3 for flugelhorn. (This is only assuming you can't read music.) Does that make you Lazy or not smart because you can't do it? If you've played music for +10 years, this should be really easy right? You ask for help, and I tell you to read the notation it's all there.



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By CharlesRandolph Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:16 am
Danoc wrote:So people do have to learn and not stay stagnated.
I'll say, being able to read is a necessity in everyday functions knowing how to read a staff is not for typical person.


The same things goes for the MPC Manual. Yes they can read it, but it doesn't mean they comprehend it. As I stated before, people learn different ways visual, auditory, reading/writing, and kinesthetic.

Also I ask to transpose that piece to B♭ for a flugelhorn, not read it. It should be pretty easy.
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By Danoc Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:29 am
Comprehending is the key.

Transposing that piece to a Bb = B-Flat is easy for those who can do it. It would just go up or down an octave but remaining the same key.

I can use the same chords in ten different songs, transposing is one of the way.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
for a flugelhorn, not read it. It should be pretty easy.
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By bees80 Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:25 am
CharlesRandolph wrote:
It's really not about acting less smart. Some people just do not learn from manual. It's like musicians who can sight read music, but can't play by ear and vice versa.

If asked you, can you transpose this piece to B♭3 for flugelhorn. (This is only assuming you can't read music.) Does that make you Lazy or not smart because you can't do it? If you've played music for +10 years, this should be really easy right? You ask for help, and I tell you to read the notation it's all there.


I hear you, though the comparision with the transposing is not really fair in comparing it to reading a manual. But I get what you mean.

Anyway, i'm kinda ''done'' with this topic now :lol:
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By bees80 Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:27 am
NearTao wrote:
While the MPC 60 vs Ableton seems fun at first... I wonder if a huge sample collection is an advantage, or having to work with limited memory keeps you laser focused.


I meant more in terms of how fast you can get a result out of one of them :D

I've never messed around with a 60. Only a 2000, which was pretty damn slow already :D
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By Bezo Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:59 pm
Danoc wrote:
Bezo wrote:
Thanks for the heads up. With that and price, I'll likely get the wired CME Xkey 37-key.

Have you ever put your hadnds on one and touched the keys? Its like my typing keyboard the keys feel dope. Only thing is l know my fingers are a lil big but l will work through it and do my playing in chops. Im kinda excited to get the combo if that and the live together. :)

No, I haven't seen it anywhere to actually touch it. 37 keys and it's size is what is selling it to me.
By CharlesRandolph Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:18 pm
Danoc wrote:
Transposing that piece to a Bb = B-Flat is easy for those who can do it. It would just go up or down an octave but remaining the same key.



Yes, you can also re-write the piece in Bb.
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By Danoc Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:17 pm
37 CME is just perfect for me. Slip that and the MPC in a bag and go. Serious instrument expansios should be made so when using the CME you make some serious joints
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By Lampdog Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:03 pm
bees80 wrote:Is it? I'd dare to say that technology did help to make people more lazy.

How dare you!




Telling the truth and shit!