So I'm selling my Live

JeriKo Jackson wrote:There should be this option here:
Project Load/Save
Under template file

I needed this feature myself so I went poking around - lo and behold, this feature exists, it just doesn't have a GUI setting to enable it. For testing purposes, I added a path to a project on the value >>

MPC.Settings wrote:<VALUE name="autoload" val="/media/az01-internal-sd/MPC Documents/Projects/2020 Template.xpj"/>

It works, loads the project at startup and connects all the midi devices up and ready. Only problem is that when starting a new project, the project will be the template when selecting "new" and not an empty one.

But yeah, this feature is not accessible to the end user, but I feel it will be - some day.

MPCWeapon1 wrote:I got rid of the Live because I copped the X. I got rid of the X cause it was too glitchy. I might have to buy another MPC...The 4000 is calling me.

I'm looking hard for a 4k. Only used one a few times and never long enough to go deep. I imagine alot of the JJ stuff was ported over from the 4k. It was the last true Akai MPC and I'll get my hands on one inevitably.

Danoc wrote:
Are you still selling the Live?

For sure selling. It's on eBay and reverb right now for a little more than I want for it. I have the skin and screen protector from MPC stuff en route. I imagine it'll go pretty quick once it's dressed up and looking fine. I'm 100 on this move.

JeriKo Jackson wrote:I'm looking hard for a 4k. Only used one a few times and never long enough to go deep. I imagine alot of the JJ stuff was ported over from the 4k. It was the last true Akai MPC and I'll get my hands on one inevitably.

JJ didn't have access to the 4k source code. So some of the ideas made it over to his 1k/2.5k firmware, but it is definitely not the same implementation.

I liked the MPC live also. But Akai the company l ain't feeling no more. Im not liking what l see and they will have competition. Im not going to get stuck with their product been there done that. I have singers and clients l deal with. I can't be limited. I made my on way to have power bith in laptop and my desktop.

If people wanna use Akais MPCs ok cool.

Whooa you wanna get the 4000?

MPCWeapon1 wrote:
I like the MPC because I can just fly through the beat making process. Working with a DAW - though more powerful, its just not as inspiring, Like the beat battle. I would have had that beat done by now on a MPC. But working in a DAW its gonna have to wait. I got the sounds ready...but the sequencing has to wait because the sound design took too long,

I got rid of the Live because I copped the X. I got rid of the X cause it was too glitchy. I might have to buy another MPC...The 4000 is calling me.

Daaaaam

Lampdog wrote:And I had my 4k on reverb for maybe 2 days and took it down cause I have a feeling I’d regret it.

I hope I helped sway that decision some

JeriKo Jackson wrote:
For sure selling. It's on eBay and reverb right now for a little more than I want for it. I have the skin and screen protector from MPC stuff en route. I imagine it'll go pretty quick once it's dressed up and looking fine. I'm 100 on this move.

Ok cool. Aren't there some k's on ebay you could buy? What's so special on the 4k than the new MPCs?

Good luck with selling your MPC. Now is the best time to do so.

I can see some here have their issues with Akai And what they don’t do right but for whatever reason in all my years looking for used MPCs maybe I’ve seen their prices dip 2 or 3 times. Do a search for the MPC touch and you will see that it’s still selling pretty high. Renaissance, still selling, Live and One prices are thru the roof. So they must be doing something right because people keep buying MPCs, young and old.

If a product is not for you, sell it. That’s what I’ve done and keep it pushing. Find what fits your workflow and continue to make music. It’s always the same 5-10 people that sold their MPCs that are still coming in here talking bad about Akai, it’s like a bad breakup and instead of moving on you’re still talking about that ex every chance you get because deep down you still want him/her

Danoc wrote:Ok cool. Aren't there some k's on ebay you could buy? What's so special on the 4k than the new MPCs?

The 4K was made for the audio engineer. It has it share of bugs, but that's because it was victim of bankruptcy.

I didn't know it had glitches. What type you know of?

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Danoc wrote:Ok cool. Aren't there some k's on ebay you could buy? What's so special on the 4k than the new MPCs?

The 4K was made for the audio engineer. It has it share of bugs, but that's because it was victim of bankruptcy.

hansjbs wrote: That’s what I’ve done and keep it pushing. Find what fits your workflow and continue to make music. It’s always the same 5-10 people that sold their MPCs that are still coming in here talking bad about Akai, it’s like a bad breakup and instead of moving on you’re still talking about that ex every chance you get because deep down you still want him/her

You sound like the guy who wanted the other guys ex but never ever could get her.
Im one of the 10 people you speak of. YOU really don't have to say nothing but l see you can't move on so you speak!

Dude move oooooonnnnn! It's not that serious.

Its not like lm lying about Akai cause no one has tried to prove me wrong they keep regurgitating the same wretched rhetoric you're spewing. Its all good.

Danoc wrote:I didn't know it had glitches. What type you know of?

If you record a track, you have to press stop on the playback, in order to switch to different sequences. There are other things, but I've learned to avoid them or just mentally block them.

Danoc wrote:

JeriKo Jackson wrote:
For sure selling. It's on eBay and reverb right now for a little more than I want for it. I have the skin and screen protector from MPC stuff en route. I imagine it'll go pretty quick once it's dressed up and looking fine. I'm 100 on this move.

Ok cool. Aren't there some k's on ebay you could buy? What's so special on the 4k than the new MPCs?

Im good with my JJOS 2500. But back in the days, beginning in like 96, I started on a 2000 and later 2kxl... no you tube, nobody I knew used one and I was just starting out I used to annoy this one guy at Sam Ash until I met a dude at one of my jobs who made wack beats but knew the machine better than me. Anyway, long story short, around 2004, I moved to Australia and met this guy out here who had also just moved and had the new 4k. I was blown away. He got lucky and got the 4k for like 1200, a shop demo, right before he left. When he told me that I couldnt help but be jealous. I love the 2kxl but the 4k was next level at that time. But you guys remember those days. It was kind of hard to be up on all the new ish and when it was coming out and blah blah. I mean future producer, sound on sound and a few others. But I only bought the odd one and would just read them at that newsstand most of the time Some people forget that beat making was just a small niche of music production... crazy to think that now.

So thats the personal interest of the 4k. I just remember gear that felt REAL. I know you are partial to DAWs, and at some point during your development that workflow and enviroment hooked you. That's where JJOS comes in for me. Flash to 2008. Im still living in Australia. Had a 1000 fully upgraded running stock Akai OS l and by then transitioned to Pro Tools and later Cubase. I lurked these forums on occasion and started hearing about this hacked OS. Then one of my boys from back home put me on. Once I tapped into the original versions of JJ and all those additions plus the classic workflow... track building and sequence building to song mode and convert I was hooked.

OK so the 4k, and I hope others feel free to chime in (im looking at you lampdog and schizo EDIT: Charles I didnt know you rocked a 4k as well - I should have known), to me seems like an upgrade 2kxl. Its spec'd up in ram and qlinks plus the OS is far more robust. I alluded to possible ports of 4k to JJ, but I didn't mean code. I just meant in terms of features. JJOS makes calculated sacrifices in order to implement certain things. The 4k just has the OS that was developed for it by Akai as far as I know. Its the last Akai MPC and thats an important distinction from the 1k and 2500. That's because Nukai/Alesis, or whatever, never delivered a finished OS for those machines (again, my opinion). Im not saying the 4k didnt have bugs or manufacturing defects. I never owned one and to my knowledge they didn't manufacture alot of them. I don't how hard they are to service or anything. 2500 is very accessible for upgrades and repairs.

I've disparaged the Live enough, so I'll can that because I could go on and on. The 4k looks like workflow porn to me The 2500 with JJOS is a performance beast. So flexible depending which of the OS you use. The 4k has to be a studio juggernaut. I could see how lampdog might not be able to justify having an X AND a 4K. But I thinks its to early to make that call. The X definitely enhances the workflow with the xtra links and dedicated buttons. But its also quite an investment for something that, even the X, feels disposable I can't really describe it. The Live, that cheap chassis, gawdy splash screen, funky qlinks, laptop charger, lithium battery will NOT hold its value. You can't open the Live for quick repairs. The video to open a live is like 5 hours long Oh yeah I said I would NOT do that

Seriously why do the friggin pads get sooo dusty. Like I said to Lamp, my Live has to wear a diaper all the time or be encased in glass... it's ridiculous. My 2000xl NEVER had dusty A$$ pads like that and I treated it like a wh0re (I was young) Maybe Im old and uptight now I just could never accept the build of the LIVE and that dust... Aside from some brilliant features the whole thing is fugazi.... and Akai using smoke and mirrors. I keep an open mind. I swore off akai after the 1k and those crappy pad cells I had to upgrade myself and the way they abandoned the OS. I'll never forget that ish. But these new MPCs looked alright. I would have gone flagship right away but I was wary of Akai and prices were stupid out here. Akai SHOULD have had the ONE and the X. The Live looked wrong to me from jump street. But I figured I could test it out and see what was what, same OS and all.

In the end my verdict is the joints feels like using a prosumer device. It doesnt feel polished. It also feels very utilitarian to use which is fine and all. But in my experience, it isn't the smoothest to perform with in comparison to a JJ machine. The X would be better for this, for sure, but that enormous screen is just too much I know you want the HDMI blowout and all but I can't do it like that

Sorry for the long post but I got on a roll feel me

hansjbs wrote:Good luck with selling your MPC. Now is the best time to do so.

I can see some here have their issues with Akai And what they don’t do right but for whatever reason in all my years looking for used MPCs maybe I’ve seen their prices dip 2 or 3 times. Do a search for the MPC touch and you will see that it’s still selling pretty high. Renaissance, still selling, Live and One prices are thru the roof. So they must be doing something right because people keep buying MPCs, young and old.

If a product is not for you, sell it. That’s what I’ve done and keep it pushing. Find what fits your workflow and continue to make music. It’s always the same 5-10 people that sold their MPCs that are still coming in here talking bad about Akai, it’s like a bad breakup and instead of moving on you’re still talking about that ex every chance you get because deep down you still want him/her

JJOS is the one that I let go of that had me buggin. But you can be sure I will be chiming in from time to time on the MPC OS development. I def wont regret not seeing the Live in my studio anymore. It does some VERY dope things VERY well but where it fails is not worth the effort to try to compensate... for ME. Im interested to see if and how they make it better. Id pick up a ONE on the cheap but its made of the same cheap garbage the Live is so I probably won't.