Does E-mu e6400 classic have built-in effects?

I have researched the manual and it describes operational functions of the e6400 Ultra (which has RFX32 effects card from the factory). I understand that the classic e6400 does not have the factory effect card, however, the person who is offering me the classic sampler tells me that the sampler has such a function.

Is this possible without the effects card installed? Does the classic e6400 have any kind of built-in effects?


Thanks

The only Emu that came with an RFX32 card is the E4 Platinum which came fully loaded with every option. Good luck finding one!

They all have effects in them, and it also depends on the OS you're running. The RFX card is next level, and costs more on its own than any one of the samplers does.

Monotremata wrote:The only Emu that came with an RFX32 card is the E4 Platinum which came fully loaded with every option. Good luck finding one!

Yeah plus Emu never corrected the effects glitches with the RFX32.

It would make more sense for anyone interested to purchase a stand alone effects unit and call it a day.

I wouldn't say that necessarily. If you can score one that has one in it and not have to pay out the ass for it then grab it. The card has some bugs but most of them are easily avoidable, and the RFX itself is pretty bad ass (a full vocoder inside a sampler!!). EMU was on to something big time with that, the routing in it alone is amazing and no other sampler had anything like it as far as effects processing goes. The trade off between having the bugs and the effects is a no brainer, that's why the cards cost like $1000+ when you find them on their own. Only works with the Ultra's though, they have a big PCI slot on the board for it that's marked "DONT PLUG PCI CARDS IN HERE", and I THINK you need to be running OS 4.6 (not sure on that one).

@Monotremata I always look forward to your responses in threads like this.

I'm not sh*tting on the RFX32, I've only used it maybe a handful of times, on a Platinum unit I was servicing + selling. I vaguely remember testing out one of the option ports and was able to route external input through the RFX32 which was dope. Then maybe a year later I saw people from Europe popping up asking a grand for the card on its own, more than double what I sold the unit for.

Yeah 4.6 is the minimum but you should be running 4.71 right?

richie wrote:@Monotremata I always look forward to your responses in threads like this.

I'm not sh*tting on the RFX32, I've only used it maybe a handful of times, on a Platinum unit I was servicing + selling. I vaguely remember testing out one of the option ports and was able to route external input through the RFX32 which was dope. Then maybe a year later I saw people from Europe popping up asking a grand for the card on its own, more than double what I sold the unit for.

Yeah 4.6 is the minimum but you should be running 4.71 right?

Hell yeah, 4.7 lets you use the FAT file format so swapping shit between your computer is eeeeeasy. Makes using a SCSI2SD card so simple. I think that's about the ONLY new feature in it though haha. They say its a beta, but I think Ive had maybe 2 crashes the whole time so eh.

Man those cards are crazy expensive now! The bugs you can always find a list online and work around them but man, for that money you can pick up a few Quadraverbs or MIDIVerb 4s and just run your outputs through those instead! **** for $1000 you can probably get a Boss SE50 or SE70 for each individual output haha. How come I never thought of that until now?? The rad thing about the RFX is the crazy routing they can do. You can route incoming audio to it, then go to the sampler, send your samples through the fx then resample them, set up dedicated effects busses on their own outputs, etc.. It was pretty awesome shit at the time, its too bad computers killed them. Now that everyone wants to go back to the hardware sampler, the guys that did all the killer ones are past it and don't care anymore. Dave's making Eurorack samplers and Z-Plane filter modules now at least.

Even the output expansions are ridiculous when you can find them. 99.9% of the time, its cheaper to just find a sampler that already has them installed because for whatever reason, if the sampler has the expansions, they don't really add to the price of it too much. But when you find them by themselves, you pay 2-3x the price of a sampler for just the expansion!

but apart from all that, almost every E4/E5000/6400 (ultra & non-ultra) has the standard built in effects which give a preset some spice
esp. the chorus/flanger/phaser and delays are good

^^AFAIR not the E64. I guess the FX came with an OS which the E64 can't update. I remeber having issues to update to the OS version that provide the Beatmunger. The OS memory wasn't big enough.
peace

beatmunger [OS] works only on ULTRA's ; you need a 'faster' processor for it

The effects came with one of the 2.0 releases.. The highest OS a 'classic' can run is 4.62, which will get you everything the Ultra's have except Beat Munger and the FAT support. FAT support is only in 4.7, but Beat Munger came earlier but needs the Ultra CPU to run. Its kinda like having a built in Recycle. Also, I think you HAVE to have the 2MB or 4MB flash to upgrade to 4.6, All the Ultra's have a 4MB flash in them to fit the Ultra OS, but the classics before it will more than likely have a 2MB (or older 1MB) flash ram in it.