Madlib Basslines

FLUENT wrote:well..i dont know about that. i take it youve heard madvillainy, heard any of the original samples? meatgrinder is a loop, drums and all. not to mention every other track on the album.

Thats not correct that every track on the album is a straight loop, as I know for a fact one of the tracks he played some live stuff along with just a bass loop

true..great day is him playing the rhodes...and fancy clown is chopped up...other then those 2 ive heard the originals and they are loops, even meatgrinder. its all good though, its not saying anyone can splash paint on a canvas..its saying anyone who can produce beats can set loop points or truncate a loop. BUT, he loops hard to find stuff and things people didnt get to first, hes not looping bob james and james brown. so you can look at it either way, its just frustrating when you look from a beatmakers perspective

does th 505 have a screen or is it still the screenless?

gotta love search engines on the internet
http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/SP-505/

sampling on the 505 is is real easy, and bette r than on any mpc ( except maybe the 4k), you can just do more with them on it because the 505 is more of a groove box, which is ment for **** with samples, choppin on it is fun, my boy had one next door but he sold it for a 2kxl because he needed a better sequencer.

im gonna buy a 505 eventually, after i complete my set up, i jsut bough some event tr 5 monitors, i got the money for the mpc 1000 now, im gettin taht then the mbox with protools, then my next toy will be a 505

My brother is looking to cop his first piece of gear soon. Is there anything the 303 can do that the 505 cannot? Can it still capture that gritty sound? I had the 303 as my first sampler...it was cool, but i thought the workflow was a bit slow for me...i didn't give it much of a chance though and eventually copped the mpc 1000...now that i got some more experience i think i could freak that little thing

Anyway...303 or 505...anybody have experience with both?

get the sp505. many more options. Also check out the korg electribes i had an es1 before the mpc and i learned alot on it. i wish i still had one.

chupacabra wrote:My brother is looking to cop his first piece of gear soon. Is there anything the 303 can do that the 505 cannot? Can it still capture that gritty sound? I had the 303 as my first sampler...it was cool, but i thought the workflow was a bit slow for me...i didn't give it much of a chance though and eventually copped the mpc 1000...now that i got some more experience i think i could freak that little thing

Anyway...303 or 505...anybody have experience with both?

yes do not get the 303, have him get the 505

"Short answer = 'No'."

That's definately not true. Dilla uses a plain mpc-3000 (rumored without the 32 megs ram), why can't the mpc1000 do it? Too many of you guys think it's all about the gear. Synths are nice to have, but you can create sounds close to these by yourself and with limited gear. Too much gear is overwhelming, you have too many choices. Should you take a kick from this machine, a sound from what module, a reverb from what processor? When you have limited gear, it creates a personallity for yourself. You create a certain sound. When you have 1 machine, or 1 other sampler, you have no choices, and you have to make you gear work for you. When the reverb doesn't sound all that great, but you use it anyways, re-sample it, layer, your creating you own sound (like madlib/dilla/alchemist/kevin-brown/9th wonder/pete rock/premier/ohh-no/waajeed/ and so on, and so on). It's this sound (dirt) that folks love to copy, but assume it's a certain piece of magical gear that will give them instant results. The truth is that it takes time to develop a style. It takes repetitive practice to create a certain sound, but it doesn't take money to achieve the same results because it can't be copied. Just because madlib uses a 303, does not mean to buy a 303, because you won't get the same sound, even though you use the same machine, he may do something before it even gets to the 303. I'm not going to say how he does his bass, even though I have a fairly good idea, but develop a style for yourself with the gear you already have, and don't worry about what other people are doing. It's good to have a role model and to try and be like them, but discover yourself. Who are you? Now let me hear YOU in YOUR music.. I don't wanna hear madlib, or anyone else if your making the track, I wanna hear you!...nahmean? If you have to use a tape deck to sample with, and re-sample it into the mpc after you filtered it, then your creating a sound that's all you. When you sell a million albums with your tracks on it, everyone will want to know what kind of tape deck your using to make your sounds. Even if you use a fisher price 'my first tape player,' they'l be on ebay for $1000 all because of YOUR sound.
Be a leader.

^^^ nuff said ^^^^

Great post rox. It's all about making the gear work for you. Gear lust can screw your creativity sometimes.

g4s

i checked yur beats rox, man u definately got a style going on for you, u really fuk with the timing, there, work sounds good.

peace 1

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