MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

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MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By CharlesRandolph Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:44 am
If you like handheld retro games and small synths this may scratch that itch. In the pictures below, it's paired with other gear.

A digital audio workstation with a built-in synthesizer and sequencer. Pocket has a digital audio workstation built in called Nanoloop. It's a synthesizer and a sequencer. Designed for music creation and live performance. Shape, stretch and morph sounds. Capture music or play and sculpt live.

Link: https://www.analogue.co/pocket/
Preorder: https://www.analogue.co/store/#pocket

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I'm not affiliated, sponsored, or an undercover social media agent for this company. :nod:

Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By CharlesRandolph Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:03 pm
NearTao wrote:Is it me, or do those look like 1990 renders?

Nano on the pocket is kind of neat... but never really got into it back in the day


They make Retro game gear so may the Render the quality was done on purpose. This may be a good move for those who like hand held synths or want to sample old gameboy sounds. It appear to work as a media player. I'm just not sure what audio format it will play.

Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By Tabletop Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:59 pm
I love the small form factor, I think this is the future of most/all electronic devices (organelle/op-z/1010blackbox.)
Id be interested if it was audio/music focused. I dont need an option for video games on my device, but as a kid it would have been rad. But, I guess these machines are all mini computers that can do it all now a days.

Imagine MPC live, at 66% the size (screen same size) Why cant we have that? ...because it's cheaper to keep the specs/leftover parts from the Touch<-------------

Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By CharlesRandolph Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:28 pm
Tabletop wrote:I love the small form factor, I think this is the future of most/all electronic devices (organelle/op-z/1010blackbox.)
Id be interested if it was audio/music focused. I dont need an option for video games on my device, but as a kid it would have been rad. But, I guess these machines are all mini computers that can do it all now a days.

Imagine MPC live, at 66% the size (screen same size) Why cant we have that? ...because it's cheaper to keep the specs/leftover parts from the Touch<-------------


That form factor doesn't lend itself to Professional Outputs. XLR, 1/4, ETHERNET, 5 PIN MIDI. Also this form factor is very hard to repair. Other things that come into play is physical abuse and ergonomics health.
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Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By Tabletop Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:39 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:
Tabletop wrote:I love the small form factor, I think this is the future of most/all electronic devices (organelle/op-z/1010blackbox.)
Id be interested if it was audio/music focused. I dont need an option for video games on my device, but as a kid it would have been rad. But, I guess these machines are all mini computers that can do it all now a days.

Imagine MPC live, at 66% the size (screen same size) Why cant we have that? ...because it's cheaper to keep the specs/leftover parts from the Touch<-------------


That form factor doesn't lend itself to Professional Outputs. XLR, 1/4, ETHERNET, 5 PIN MIDI. Also this form factor is very hard to repair. Other things that come into play is physical abuse and ergonomics health.


I see your point & prefer 1/4", but:

1. I'm sure you could still have all of those on 66% of the live's footprint
2. Outputs might not matter in a few years, people are making complete albums on ipad now a days
3. Op1 is an example of a small device that is totally repairable, bur I see your point
4. These little devices can take a licking
5. The ergonomics is a very important point. I cant stand adjusting sliders and knobs on the ipad, but admittedly love having a big touch screen if i need it.

The major problems, imo, with these smaller devices is audio quality, ins/outs & storage/sampling time. The fun, immediacy & portability can't be beat. The opz can fit in your pocket but the audio sucks and the ins/outs/sampling leaves much to be desired.
The ipad is an incredible tool for any electronic musicians arsenal, but I prefer hitting pads and keys and turning knobs.

......hey I can dream right?! :lol:

Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By CharlesRandolph Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:44 pm
Tabletop wrote:
I see your point & prefer 1/4", but:

1. I'm sure you could still have all of those on 66% of the live's footprint
2. Outputs might not matter in a few years, people are making complete albums on ipad now a days
3. Op1 is an example of a small device that is totally repairable, bur I see your point
4. These little devices can take a licking
5. The ergonomics is a very important point. I cant stand adjusting sliders and knobs on the ipad, but admittedly love having a big touch screen if i need it.

The major problems, imo, with these smaller devices is audio quality, ins/outs & storage/sampling time. The fun, immediacy & portability can't be beat. The opz can fit in your pocket but the audio sucks and the ins/outs/sampling leaves much to be desired.
The ipad is an incredible tool for any electronic musicians arsenal, but I prefer hitting pads and keys and turning knobs.

......hey I can dream right?! :lol:


I don't see anything wrong with small format for auxiliary gear. But try using an OPZ for hours on end. Not happening! :lol: Small screen, neck and shoulder pains. It's the same reason video game controller are designed better. It helps prevent long term issues.

Making music on the go is cool a thought, but honestly I've never see anyone really do it. How do they tune drums, when cars are driving by, bird are chirping, wind is blowing, and the other ambient noise that occurs are us. We've learned to block it out, but once you start making music and focus, you can hear how noisy the world is. :lol:

2. Outputs might not matter in a few years, people are making complete albums on ipad now a days


True, but they're not tracking major vocals, strings, bass, drums, mixing, and mastering on it. They're good for basic beats and what not. But serious composing require, serious tools in my opinion.

Nevertheless this Analogue Pocket seems like a good pick up. Maybe people will make other music programs and accessories for it. Connecting the MPC to it via MIDI is easy.

Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By Tabletop Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:41 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with small format for auxiliary gear. But try using an OPZ for hours on end. Not happening! :lol: Small screen, neck and shoulder pains. It's the same reason video game controller are designed better. It helps prevent long term issues.

Making music on the go is cool a thought, but honestly I've never see anyone really do it. How do they tune drums, when cars are driving by, bird are chirping, wind is blowing, and the other ambient noise that occurs are us. We've learned to block it out, but once you start making music and focus, you can hear how noisy the world is. :lol:

2. Outputs might not matter in a few years, people are making complete albums on ipad now a days


True, but they're not tracking major vocals, strings, bass, drums, mixing, and mastering on it. They're good for basic beats and what not. But serious composing require, serious tools in my opinion.

Nevertheless this Analogue Pocket seems like a good pick up. Maybe people will make other music programs and accessories for it. Connecting the MPC to it via MIDI is easy.


-I've played op1 & opz for hours & its no different than playing mpc or scrolling on your phone. (& opz can be paired with your pad so you can have a large screen)

-I agree with your on-the-go music point. If anything, it makes the smaller devices seem like more of a fun (albeit more & more capable & powerful) sketch-pad type instrument. It also reinforces my thoughts that liveii's speaker was a terrible step backwards in the MPC being a serious/professional tool for music.

-yes serious composing requires serious tools!

Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By CharlesRandolph Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:54 pm
Tabletop wrote:
-I've played op1 & opz for hours & its no different than playing mpc or scrolling on your phone. (& opz can be paired with your pad so you can have a large screen)


When I say played, I meant finger drumming the instrument, the same way a turntablist, pianist, drummer, or guitarist plays their instrument. Personally, I don't think pressing play and turning knobs is playing, it's more inline with active programming.

Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By Tabletop Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:10 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:
Tabletop wrote:
-I've played op1 & opz for hours & its no different than playing mpc or scrolling on your phone. (& opz can be paired with your pad so you can have a large screen)


When I say played, I meant finger drumming the instrument, the same way a turntablist, pianist, drummer, or guitarist plays their instrument. Personally, I don't think pressing play and turning knobs is playing, it's more inline with active programming.


Oh I see. Yeah opz is more of a sequencer, op1 is definitely playable though (imo). Earlier I mentioned 66% size of an MPC, in my head thats playable, anything smaller would probably feel too small.
Whats the one's pad size compared to live?

Re: MPC Live, One and X paired with Analogue Pocket

By CharlesRandolph Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:41 pm
Tabletop wrote:Oh I see. Yeah opz is more of a sequencer, op1 is definitely playable though (imo). Earlier I mentioned 66% size of an MPC, in my head thats playable, anything smaller would probably feel too small.
Whats the one's pad size compared to live?


They're 1" inch or 2.54 cm in size. Which is works well for finger drumming on the MPC. On the op1, I found the design to be too compressed, the key are to close each other, the plastic is too hard, and the build isn't robust enough to handle the abuse of finger drumming. Mainly for those players, who tend to be heavy handed.

Like the SP 1200 and Linn Drum, they weren't designed for the finger drummer in mind. Triplet, ghost notes, and different velocity, playing multi notes at the same time, etc, etc.
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