Cracks in my MPC LIVE are killing me

The elements always have an affects on the paint, even in a humidity controlled room. Heat, Humidity, Moisture, UV, Water and Oils from our skin. In fact just being in the room, breathing on the gear can cause issues. This guy will argue that water isn't wet.

Fnoch clean room music studio.

TT_Lab wrote:

Good job.

Unless you have a hvac guy or engineer design your System you’re going to have hot spots in any room within the system. Ideally you try for even distribution between the sectors in zone but it’s not fool proof and really relies on where the thermostat for said zone or sector is and an average of coverage, even if the designer opens a engineering book, which 99% don”t.... They’re going to tell you you need 1 ton system for every 1200 square feet but rip you off on the ducting and actual design of the system. It’s the exchange of air, it’s rate, that is key. Millions of rooms around the world are designed to not exchange air but to only spit cool air at you...

Most hvac companies just go with where the quick money is at and won’t tell you when you need more complex systems, math is hard. Even up selling you on the size of the system doesn’t increase coverage. Imagine the one extra room you have with one send and no return to exchange the air like most use for music vs you’re open living room with 3-4 sends and at least 2 returns to change over the air every 6 minutes or whatever... More issues you have more money for them. I’ve built everything from homes, hotels to military bases. There’s a huge difference especially when a home has been retro fitted in a building where ac was non existent. That’s not even starting on insulation r factors building materials that permeate moisture or the heavy breathing Charles is talking about LOL even at 40% humidity mold or decomposition can occur with no air flow...

Too many factors to know for sure just bringing up stuff every home owner should be aware of, project studio or not...

Cockdiesel wrote:Unless you have a hvac guy or engineer design your System you’re going to have hot spots in any room within the system. Ideally you try for even distribution between the sectors in zone but it’s not fool proof and really relies on where the thermostat for said zone or sector is and an average of coverage, even if the designer opens a engineering book, which 99% don”t.... They’re going to tell you you need 1 ton system for every 1200 square feet but rip you off on the ducting and actual design of the system. It’s the exchange of air, it’s rate, that is key. Millions of rooms around the world are designed to not exchange air but to only spit cool air at you...

Most hvac companies just go with where the quick money is at and won’t tell you when you need more complex systems, math is hard. Even up selling you on the size of the system doesn’t increase coverage. Imagine the one extra room you have with one send and no return to exchange the air like most use for music vs you’re open living room with 3-4 sends and at least 2 returns to change over the air every 6 minutes or whatever... More issues you have more money for them. I’ve built everything from homes, hotels to military bases. There’s a huge difference especially when a home has been retro fitted in a building where ac was non existent. That’s not even starting on insulation r factors building materials that permeate moisture or the heavy breathing Charles is talking about LOL even at 40% humidity mold or decomposition can occur with no air flow...

Too many factors to know for sure just bringing up stuff every home owner should be aware of, project studio or not...

You went deep. +1000. I use studios with forced air and boy does the price goes up compared to mini splits, when they're designing the building.

If this particular kind of paint does this, what is the underlining reason for it? Just saying it was a crappy product finish doesn't answer the questions. (Like one user said.) Something is interacting with the paint to cause this. I know people with the MPC Live and the Touch and they don't have this cracking issues.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
If this particular kind of paint does this, what is the underlining reason for it? Just saying it was a crappy product finish doesn't answer the questions. (Like one user said.) Something is interacting with the paint to cause this. I know people with the MPC Live and the Touch and they don't have this cracking issues.

If it is at hand contact points I would say sweat / oil from skin, this can vary by person e.g. be more acidic and be quite aggressive.

If I had to guess there’s more story. Oils, cleaning product, light or something physical my guess. Humidity I think would take a long time with that type of material. Could be wrong but it appears to by physical to me.

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Saw this on an ableton group today. The claim is the PTE plastic is reacting to oils, heat & moisture. Hopefully this doesnt happen to our MPCs...!

Does the MPC One have the same rubberized coating as the Live?

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Saw this on an ableton group today. The claim is the PTE plastic is reacting to oils, heat & moisture. Hopefully this doesnt happen to our MPCs...!

Sounds about right.

Cockdiesel wrote:If I had to guess there’s more story. Oils, cleaning product, light or something physical my guess. Humidity I think would take a long time with that type of material. Could be wrong but it appears to by physical to me.

Yes, more to the story. Combination of them all.

DJ Illustrious wrote:Does the MPC One have the same rubberized coating as the Live?

I don't think it's the same coating.

DJ Illustrious wrote:Does the MPC One have the same rubberized coating as the Live?

I've never seen a Live in person, but I own a One and can say that that it does not have a rubberized surface.

Peccary wrote:I've never seen a Live in person, but I own a One and can say that that it does not have a rubberized surface.

Same here.

CharlesRandolph wrote:We've been doing this for months already, but I understand if it's not for you. It takes guts to have your work judged by others, without having your ego crushed. Nevertheless, the offer stands it's a good exercise for any level of producer interested in getting better.

That's adorable.

More people are getting into the challenge. Lots of learning. Lots of banter. Great for getting experience and feedback as a producer. Not a “beat battle” though. There’s another section for that. No sampling in these challenges. It’s a cool way to get better.

Well for anyone interested feel free to join. It's Electro Funk this round.
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