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By Soleil Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:59 pm
Hello!

I have the following situation:
I made a sequence with 6 tracks, on track 2 I have inserted an effect (Air Filter).
When I copy the sequence and change the effect it's also changed on sequence 1 but I don't want that.
What is the correct way to do this?
Cheers,
S
By CharlesRandolph Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:12 pm
Soleil wrote:Hello!

I have the following situation:
I made a sequence with 6 tracks, on track 2 I have inserted an effect (Air Filter).
When I copy the sequence and change the effect it's also changed on sequence 1 but I don't want that.
What is the correct way to do this?
Cheers,
S



You have the insert effects, assigned to the program. So when you edit the effect on that program, it's going to change globally. You could copy the program and use alternate version on different sequences. Doing it this could be really tough to keep track of if, you have lots of programs.

You would have to name and organize it. Example below. (S1 = SEQUENCE 1 and S2 = SEQUENCE 2)

Sequence 1
S1 Program 1
S1 Program 2
S1 Program 3
S1 Program 4


Sequence 2
S2 Program 1
S2 Program 2
S2 Program 3
S2 Program 4


Sequence 3
S3 Program 1
S3 Program 2
S3 Program 3
S3 Program 4

or

Sequence 1
Program 1A
Program 2A
Program 3A

Sequence 2
Program 1B (COPY of Program 1A in Sequence 1. Edit the effect here won't change the other Seq.)
Program 2A
Program 3A

Sequence 3
Program 1C (COPY of Program 1A in Sequence 1. Edit the effect here won't change the other Seq.)
Program 2A
Program 3A

Perhaps someone else has another way to do it.
By CharlesRandolph Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:19 pm
Menco wrote:Write the settings for each individual sequence in each sequence as automation.


When in song mode and convert into one sequence, does the effect automation change over? The way I suggested does hold when converting to one long sequence, from song mode.
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By Menco Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:26 pm
Well, that's the big question I guess. I believe there were/ are still problems with that. Or automate after converting it in a long sequence in Song mode. Anyway, there are multiple ways to address the OP's problem.
By Soleil Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:29 pm
Seems like an interesting topic, thanks for the answers so far!
By CharlesRandolph Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:25 pm
Menco wrote:Well, that's the big question I guess. I believe there were/ are still problems with that. Or automate after converting it in a long sequence in Song mode. Anyway, there are multiple ways to address the OP's problem.


Sorry, I meant doesn't hold when converting to the a long sequence. It still adopts the first sequences effect. :nod: So automating after the convert seems like the best way.
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By Lampdog Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:41 pm
I’m gonna go with automating after the song>seq convert.

Also, learning to separate efx, pads vs programs vs master will solve the efx problem.
By CharlesRandolph Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:50 pm
Lampdog wrote:I’m gonna go with automating after the song>seq convert.

Also, learning to separate efx, pads vs programs vs master will solve the efx problem.


I agree.

I'll use the other way I posted when I render stems. So I would just render each sequence separately. Do you know if the automation exports when rendered? I rarely auto on the mpc.
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By Lampdog Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:13 pm
I don’t export stems. No need.
By CharlesRandolph Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:24 am
Okay, so the way I mention above, does export the effect when exporting straight from song mode as a two track or separate programs. However we can't explode track. I never work like this, so it's interesting seeing how it works.
Last edited by CharlesRandolph on Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By Lampdog Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:36 am
No real time tracking either.
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By Lampdog Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:48 pm
PFM indeed.

I don’t use a computer daw. I create on my hardware, no computer daw.
When I do start Reaper it’s usually just experimenting and flowers around, not for anything beatmaking or creating at all.