Akai Force Forum: Everything relating to the Akai Force, the iconic 64 pad, clip-based standalone sampler/groovebox from Akai.
By Uija Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:45 am
People are waiting for that update since 2019, it was scheduled and announced and the postponed uncountable times. You should take the device as it is with 3.0.4 and don’t wait for the update. If it is released some time (who knows, I would neither wonder if it was this week or next Year) that be happy about new features, but don‘t expect them or plan with them.
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By MPC-Tutor Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:54 am
Uija wrote:People are waiting for that update since 2019, it was scheduled and announced and the postponed uncountable times. You should take the device as it is with 3.0.4 and don’t wait for the update. If it is released some time (who knows, I would neither wonder if it was this week or next Year) that be happy about new features, but don‘t expect them or plan with them.


That's definitely great advice when buying any gear, too many people buy for vaguely promised 'coming soon' features. Buy a product for what it has on the day you buy it and if it doesn't live up to expectations, learn to adapt, maybe suggest feature improvements to the company, etc, but ultimately if you are just not happy sell it and move on to something else.
By carvingcode Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:34 pm
It's easy to think that some new feature will magically make us produce new and exciting music. Jaco Pastorius played a 4-string bass. John Coltrane played a stock Selmer tenor saxophone.

Force is an instrument. We need to learn to play it. And appreciate it for what it is now.

Regarding "song/arranger mode", Akai currently provides that in the license to Ableton Live 10 Lite that came with the Force. Record stems into Live and then do what's needed. IMO, creating songs and arrangements will always be simpler in Live or another DAW. Trying to shoehorn that functionality into Force will probably just create new things for users to nit.

Peace.
By Uija Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:44 pm
The sad thing is: I bought the Force in 2019 and the Arranger was part of the featurelist, was even printed on the advertisements. I was so mad back then, that I returned it to the shop.
Now i just ordered another one, that hopefully arrives tomorrow, because after trying out nearly every competitioneer on the marked, I realized, that while others have a song mode (that I do badly wanted) but lack of other things, for example a good way to export stuff so I can arrange and mix in ableton, because to be realistic: even that I hate working on music with a mouse or touchpad, I am way better and faster with it, get way better results, and hate, that I cannot do the first 90% otb and then switch back easily.

So while I highly recommend everyone to buy gear for what I provided and not for what may come, Akai did a lot wrong on the force (and still is doing) ...

MPC-Tutor wrote:
Uija wrote:People are waiting for that update since 2019, it was scheduled and announced and the postponed uncountable times. You should take the device as it is with 3.0.4 and don’t wait for the update. If it is released some time (who knows, I would neither wonder if it was this week or next Year) that be happy about new features, but don‘t expect them or plan with them.


That's definitely great advice when buying any gear, too many people buy for vaguely promised 'coming soon' features. Buy a product for what it has on the day you buy it and if it doesn't live up to expectations, learn to adapt, maybe suggest feature improvements to the company, etc, but ultimately if you are just not happy sell it and move on to something else.
By kaydigi Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:17 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:
That's definitely great advice when buying any gear, too many people buy for vaguely promised 'coming soon' features. Buy a product for what it has on the day you buy it and if it doesn't live up to expectations, learn to adapt, maybe suggest feature improvements to the company, etc, but ultimately if you are just not happy sell it and move on to something else.


carvingcode wrote:It's easy to think that some new feature will magically make us produce new and exciting music. Jaco Pastorius played a 4-string bass. John Coltrane played a stock Selmer tenor saxophone.

Force is an instrument. We need to learn to play it. And appreciate it for what it is now.

Regarding "song/arranger mode", Akai currently provides that in the license to Ableton Live 10 Lite that came with the Force. Record stems into Live and then do what's needed. IMO, creating songs and arrangements will always be simpler in Live or another DAW. Trying to shoehorn that functionality into Force will probably just create new things for users to nit.

Peace.


You guys aren't wrong about promised features but the Force arranger was in marketing material last summer/fall for the Force when I bought it. Of course I knew it wasn't out yet, but some communication would be nice.

Even a simple tweet for the force arranger screenshot "coming soon etc.." would go a long way. At this rate the MPC line will get the arrangers before the FORCE :lol:
By Vfire77 Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:37 pm
Finally, a real update! But the most important thing doesn't seem to be there..... the ability to INSERT TRACKS.

Did I miss it or did they not put that in?? Seriously its the biggest frustration not to be able to insert a track
By andreat668 Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:16 am
If I were Akai I would drop the Force update right now.
Maschine Plus seems nice (even if I am skeptical about the A/D converters and the sequencer).
I hope they waited this exact moment for dropping the update, due to challenge the new Maschine.
If not someone should get fired at Akai.
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By antic604 Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:42 am
andreat668 wrote:If I were Akai I would drop the Force update right now.
Maschine Plus seems nice (even if I am skeptical about the A/D converters and the sequencer).
I hope they waited this exact moment for dropping the update, due to challenge the new Maschine.
If not someone should get fired at Akai.


Well, the main Force evangelist was already fired, so....
By J-Fly Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:31 pm
I'm a former Maschine user and I'm happy NI finally got into the standalone business. I don't understand the lack of a touch screen and it has 16 pads vs the Force's 64. I'm pissed about the lack of an arranger but I have the beta. NI has failed on more promises than Akai so Akai wins for me.