Akai Force Forum: Everything relating to the Akai Force, the iconic 64 pad, clip-based standalone sampler/groovebox from Akai.
By holobeat Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:41 pm
Hi,

Is it possible to do with Akai a similar trick like in the below link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl9GtO_vQxw

I be been trying to find a similar way of recording a clip or a loop but so far ...not so good.
I can’t even find any info if that’s possible with the current firmware.

With clip recording I’ve only found an overdub mode which adds a new layer on top of the old one, with loop I’ve spot a replace mode but this deletes the previous recording no matter if I play or not. I need a kinda mix of those two options.

Can anyone tell me if that’s possible and how to get there ( hopefully not by buying yet another tool)?
By IGGI Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:52 pm
What do you mean? The Overdub button is right there in the corner?

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Or do you mean the ability to record looper events into MIDI?
By holobeat Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:56 pm
In the overdub mode I could only add some new layers, I need to delete the old recording while playing. I am looking for a way of looping e.g. 4 bars, improvising for a few minutes and when I hear / decide ‘ that was it!’ - I have a ready to use 4 bar piece - just by not playing anymore. Just to underline - a piece not with 57 layers of the previous recordings - only the last one, recorded before stopping playing. This can be done with ableton ( hence the post ‘live looping without a pedal’ -there are some YouTube vids on how to achieve that).

To sum up - as long as you play the loop is being recorded. When you stop, you’ ve got what you’ve recorded in the last loop.
By Cosy Studios Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:13 pm
This is exactly how I work, and currently my best solution is I have an EHX 2880 and foot controller to do the job and anything I want to long term "bank", I then route it into the force and grab the loop once settled.
the 2880 is idle for this, you just keep overwriting on the loop until you're happy and then switch out.
You can even jump in for a note on the next pass and jump out again.
The looper on the force is pretty weak and certainly has no place in live performance

Essentially whats required to achieve this on the force would be a fixed length clip recording with hard overdub. (i,e replace, not overdub)

Then theres the issue of course of switching out from the record whilst your playing your instrument up to the end of the bar/loop..
This workflow would be entirely possible if midi controller input was assignable in "macros", then I could use my behringer midi foot controller to do handle the switching.

Its a big gripe for me - either you have stop recording AFTER the end of the loop and quickly go in to the clip, making sure knobs are in screen mode and bring the loop length down a bar OR your phrase has to end before the end of the loop so that your free to hit the damn clip button.