Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
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By zangetsu01 Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:39 pm
Trakz wrote:Peace all. I got this 2 load on my X. Guess I’ll need an ableton like controller to use this properly. It renders a lot of buttons on the X useless. Dope stuff none the less.


Download my midi.cfg file. A lot of stuff is mapped for the MPC X.
By Akira-76 Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:15 am
Ultros wrote:those are listed as CONFIG_ARM or CONTROLLER_ARM (instead of select its my bad lol)


It's ok, you already do a good job !

But I didn't figure how to delete a program as explain here : https://i.imgur.com/T2aqKk0.png page (Point 27 on page 11 of the manual).

Supposely I should push on : Delete + Play start + Pad 9 to delete the track 1, but only the arm rec toggle of track 1. Did I miss something ?

My aim is to delete or replace a program set on a track.
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By zangetsu01 Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:57 am
Akira-76 wrote:
Ultros wrote:those are listed as CONFIG_ARM or CONTROLLER_ARM (instead of select its my bad lol)


It's ok, you already do a good job !

But I didn't figure how to delete a program as explain here : https://i.imgur.com/T2aqKk0.png page (Point 27 on page 11 of the manual).

Supposely I should push on : Delete + Play start + Pad 9 to delete the track 1, but only the arm rec toggle of track 1. Did I miss something ?

My aim is to delete or replace a program set on a track.


You can always replace a program just by selecting that track and load a program from the browser.

Deleting is something I still have figure out.

I also have an clean project file for you if you like with no tracks in it. The default projects on the Force always start out with 2 tracks. One being a plug-in and the other an vocal track.
By muteoscillator1 Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:26 am
Stefan wrote:YES SUCCESS on successful loading the hakai force os on my MPC X
I was having the same problem as others with a message reading "currently not spoofed into any mode" after the hakai os had been installed.
All I can do is take you through the process that worked for me and I'm sure it will work for live and live 2 owners too.
1) I restored my mpc x os back to its last original os.
2) I plugged my USB pen drive into the back of the mpc x using slot 1
3) I put my mpc x into controller mode using my laptop and then clicked the This PC icon. It should show your USB pen drive as it is plugged into your mpc.
4) I right clicked on the USB pen drive icon and scrolled to the format option.
5) I named the USB pen drive in capital letters FORCE
6) I did a full exFAT format on the USB pen drive "Not the quick option"
7) once the format is complete I dragged and dropped the hakai os onto the USB pen drive icon now named FORCE.
8) before going back into standalone mode on my mpc x. I right clicked my USB pen drive icon and ejected it so my laptop could no longer see it but was still left in the back of my mpc.
9) I closed my mpc DAW on my laptop forcing my mpc x back into standalone mode.
10) I went to the settings menu on the mpc x and clicked the update from USB drive option. It installed the new os and this time booted into the force mode
I think what made all the difference is the USB pen drive never left the back if my mpc x whilst the naming, formatting and copying took place.
I'm not totally up on my akai force skills yet but I had some clips launched and had a plug in running this really is a welcomed and awesome piece of software and 100% works on the mpc x
I would just like to say a big thanks to the people behind all the hard work happy Xmas all


I would love to try this way but if I plug a USB key in my ONE and the go in controller mode I can’t see the device at all on my pc. It just shows up if I run MPC software, and btw I can’t see the usb stick. I can only see the sd card. Isn’t this strange? Should I be able to see the usb pen too in my pc?
Would it make sense to try to do the HAKAI upgrade using an sd card in the same way as a usb stick?
Thanks
By Akira-76 Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:04 pm
Ultros wrote:
You can always replace a program just by selecting that track and load a program from the browser.

Deleting is something I still have figure out.

I also have an clean project file for you if you like with no tracks in it. The default projects on the Force always start out with 2 tracks. One being a plug-in and the other an vocal track.


What about that... :worthy:

It is a logic I didn't figure out... It was the nail that prevent me to really enjoy your good job. So I have a Force an a MPC box with wihch I can produce now :smoker:

What about that :worthy:

Really, really Happy new year guy, and many thanks :worthy:

Did you plan to do this for the 3.10 firmware ?
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By jabberwalky Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:58 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:
Trakz wrote:Peace all. I got this 2 load on my X. Guess I’ll need an ableton like controller to use this properly. It renders a lot of buttons on the X useless. Dope stuff none the less.


Download my midi.cfg file. A lot of stuff is mapped for the MPC X.


Thought I'd take a look at your mapping, but the link in this thread is dead. Do you have another?
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By zangetsu01 Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:58 am
muteoscillator1 wrote:
Stefan wrote:YES SUCCESS on successful loading the hakai force os on my MPC X
I was having the same problem as others with a message reading "currently not spoofed into any mode" after the hakai os had been installed.
All I can do is take you through the process that worked for me and I'm sure it will work for live and live 2 owners too.
1) I restored my mpc x os back to its last original os.
2) I plugged my USB pen drive into the back of the mpc x using slot 1
3) I put my mpc x into controller mode using my laptop and then clicked the This PC icon. It should show your USB pen drive as it is plugged into your mpc.
4) I right clicked on the USB pen drive icon and scrolled to the format option.
5) I named the USB pen drive in capital letters FORCE
6) I did a full exFAT format on the USB pen drive "Not the quick option"
7) once the format is complete I dragged and dropped the hakai os onto the USB pen drive icon now named FORCE.
8) before going back into standalone mode on my mpc x. I right clicked my USB pen drive icon and ejected it so my laptop could no longer see it but was still left in the back of my mpc.
9) I closed my mpc DAW on my laptop forcing my mpc x back into standalone mode.
10) I went to the settings menu on the mpc x and clicked the update from USB drive option. It installed the new os and this time booted into the force mode
I think what made all the difference is the USB pen drive never left the back if my mpc x whilst the naming, formatting and copying took place.
I'm not totally up on my akai force skills yet but I had some clips launched and had a plug in running this really is a welcomed and awesome piece of software and 100% works on the mpc x
I would just like to say a big thanks to the people behind all the hard work happy Xmas all


I would love to try this way but if I plug a USB key in my ONE and the go in controller mode I can’t see the device at all on my pc. It just shows up if I run MPC software, and btw I can’t see the usb stick. I can only see the sd card. Isn’t this strange? Should I be able to see the usb pen too in my pc?
Would it make sense to try to do the HAKAI upgrade using an sd card in the same way as a usb stick?
Thanks


Bro I think your USB drive is formated in the wrong format. I think it should be EXFAT or FAT32 not NTFS any cycle between these 3 formats and let us know.
By djednine Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:45 am
Wow this is great! Looking forward to trying this on the mpc one when I free up. Are you planning on making workflow enhancements, better shortcuts, etc etc? From what I’ve read so far this seems like it’s the straight up force software with mpc button modification. Any plans to move things around or add to the os? Cough :: track rearrange:: cough. Either way this is nice! :worthy:
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By zangetsu01 Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:09 pm
Hey guys a few quick tips and tricks I've copied over from our FB Hakai Group Page here:

Tip 1 ) Hold down PLAY START and hit PAD 1 – 8 To launch row 1-8

Tip 2 ) To use the Mute/Solo/Rec Arm buttons on your tracks, first push one of these 3 buttons and after that hold down PLAY START and hit PAD 9 – 16 to Mute/Solo/Rec Arm row 1-8 (X users can simply use the numerical buttons 1-8)

Tip 3 ) Find the Note mode button on the MPC, and hold it down to see extra options (The options will be different for different type of tracks). Also try shift + the note button to change Banks (For X users that have my settings it’s the Program button). Don’t ask me why but Akai made pad bank A on the MPC to correspondent to pad bank C on the Force. Don’t worry you can copy the pads in your existing kits from Bank A to C in the grid editor by selecting the edit option and after that the ‘Copy Pads’option.

Tip 4 ) Find the launch mode button on the MPC, it’s mapped to the 16 level button and hold it down to see extra options. Also try shift + Launch mode to see other options. (For X users that have my settings it’s the project button).

Tip 5 ) Find the knobs button on the MPC, it is mapped to the Qlink select button and hold it down to see different modes for the Q links. (For X users that have my settings it’s the Screen Control). Go to the Macros menu to customize Project 1 and Project 2.

Tip 6 ) To record to the clips make sure that you’ve armed the track (Rec Arm) and hit record and after that Play.

Tip 7 ) To record to the arranger either to push shift + record or hold down the record button for 2 seconds and select record to arranger. (you can also select record to clip by doing this).

Tip 8 ) You can change the record settings by holding down record and choose the settings options. I prefer to enable write automation while recording.

Tip 9) when recording your clips to the Arranger don’t forget to set the TC to the smallest setting. I prefer 1/64. Otherwise your 1/64 notes might be quantized to 1/16.

Tip 10 ) For Note repeat/Latch stuff you have to find the arpeggiator button on your MPC its shift + Note repeat. (For X users that have my settings it’s shift + the sampler button).

Tip 11 ) As you might know the MPC only has 16 pads while the Force Matrix has 64. Don’t worry you can switch between quadrants by doing this: press Bank A 2 times for Quadrant 1, press Bank B 2 times for Quadrant 2, press Bank C 2 times for Quadrant 3, press Bank D 2 times for Quadrant 4. It might sound confusing but you will get the hang of hit when you fill the entire matrix with clips and you give it a try. This has to be done in Launch Mode.

Tip 12 ) Go to the mixer and hit the master button (on the MPC it’s mapped to the Next Seq button) to see the return busses and the Master busses. You can swipe left to see the Submix busses. (For the X users that have my settings it’s the F-Key button).

Tip 13 ) MPC Live users: FORCE mode probably won't work when you're in battery mode. Why? Because the Force doesn't have an Battery LOL!!

Tip 14 ) The MPC X has 8 outputs and the Force only has 4. The 4 Extra outputs the X won't work.

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Also it’s a good thing to read the Force manual. It will open up a new world to you and you might wish Akai brought this to our MPC’s a long time ago.

Also watch these following videos and you’ll understand the force in no time:

To know what every button does:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y1wp9V3jwM&t=130s

To understand clips and scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj2TP1Ud87Q&t=551s

To make an beat using clips and the arranger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PE841YIHog

Ow and either get an APC mini or an Novation Launchpad Pro Mk3 to fully turn your MPC into a Force!!
I will update this tip list once I discover more handy stuff.

And last: If you ever visit http://www.mpc-forums.com don’t forget to say thanks to our main developer: ULTROS

Because without his hard work and the groundwork of the Kikgen HAKAI wouldn’t exist.

Hakai FB page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/296222559189064/