Just scored a 60, was this a good price?

I just scored a MPC60 (og, not II) no upgrades, still on old OS.
Ex condition, screen lights up, the body isn't scratched up or anything.
Paid $400 including a padded hard-case.

I wasn't looking for a 60 (I've always secretly wanted one though) I just got the opportunity to buy it just a few blocks from my house, and I thought that was a pretty decent price, so I jumped on it.
Do you think that's a good price?


Now I just have to save another 5 bills to get the 3.1/SCSI/RAM upgrades.

wow, thats excellent, you stole one. You should atleast get the 3.10 first, really big difference from the old OS.

That is a good deal, you should holla at route 66 to see if they still have those 3.10 upgrades for $100 here's the website
http://www.route66studios.com

Question: If I get the SCSI installed, does the floppy drive still work, or do I have to get a different floppy drive (thought I read something like that.)

Actually that's about right, the problem is that peeps are just over paying for dogged-out standard 60's on eBay.
Do the math;

ebay is usually like $650-750+ un-expanded
typical price for o.s. and SCSI is $445
typical price for expansion is $105
that's like $1200-1300
At that price you are buying a 3000.
Not saying a 60 doesn't pack weight but when you compare a buying and upgrading a 60 to bying a 3000 that's a very marginal choice.
If you have used both heavily you understand what I'm saying.
Now based on what most are paying you got a good one.
Keep in mind that if the OG 60 is your first MPC the V2 software ain't bad, but coming from any of the other MPC's makes V2 real uncomfortable.

NO SCSI, V2 and standard memory probably won't even feel like a MPC.

Now if you take the $400 you paid and add expansions to that you still have a good deal.
What you saved gets you pretty deep on the upgrades.
I wouldn't wait on them since it's questionable as to how much longer they will be easy to get.
We aren't talking about big companies with warehouses of SCSI kits, expansion mods and eproms waiting to be purchased.
Max it out while you can.
You just never know.
Look at all the cats that said nah, I don't need the SCSI on my ASR then cried when they became hard to find even before the company closed.
Another thing I think the OG 60 was a better choice than the 60II. I have owned both a think the 60I comes off better and the display seemed better.

Yeah, good goin man, great price for a nice condition MK I. I like the MK I better than the II personally, although I know people who feel different.

yeah, check the Route 66 for the upgrade, it'll save you some cash.

Although the scsi by itself is 3 bills, so at $119 you will have a total of 419 instead of 450 if you buy them together from Linn.

Is your memory expanded? You'll want that.

definately get the upgrade, it makes it so much more.

I agree with Ntalec on that front, but I do feel the 60 has a few things on the 3000 UI wise. Since you already have a 2k, the 60 will mean hours of fun. You know I'll help out any 60 user, so if you got questions, just post them.

Man, that kind of deal is destiny, right near your house? Man. That is a great price, considering there aren't that many nice ones on the market, and if you want to buy one they aren't always available how you would want them.

Ntalec, do you feel the same way about the 1200? That the price is inflated? I kinda feel that way about the 60, but the market is what it is, and if that's what they change hands at, then thats the value.

I could probably sell my 60 for enough to get a 3000, but man I wouldn't even if it gave me $500 change. I really love this machine.

Yes a good SP is a bit high.
Me personally I'm like a crack head when it comes to the SP1200.
When I first got a SP12 turbo back in the day my girl told me I was crazy as I handed the people at Rouge a sh*tload of equipment and they handed me the SP in return.
The only time she stop talking about it was at lunch.
I added a S-950 and she never complained again.
I have owned a SP-12 turbo, SP-1200 Grey, SP-12, and 2 SP-1200 Black.
When I sold my las SP I said I was done (same thing I said when I sold my 60II).
Later got a Emax HD and started using the Emax and S-950 to compensate with the xl.
Ended up getting another black SP-1200 and MPC60I.
Here's what I feel, it's not the sound of the boxes it's how they make you do things.
Working on a 60, 60II, 3000, SP or whatever makes you do things a particular depending on which box it is.
Here's some examples;
1) people as me why I have an ASR keyboard and 2 racks. The reason is I started with a rack and learned the ASR but the keyboard is the sh*t because I can do things without moving my hands it's just more ergonomic that the rack. The racks are really there for back up or spare parts.
2) people love to chop beats up on the MPC and Recycle, SF etc. I do it alot but it's not my chosen sword.
To me ASR and it's auto keyspan is the ultimate sword for chopping, just like a SP runnig at double time kills.

All boxes has certain things that make them click, the difference is most people don't get exposed to them all to understand the differences.
That's kinda why I don't care for the 4000, it does more than I really want to do with a single box.
Everything ends up in Pro Tools, the 4000 makes me feel like I'm working inside the computer before I even get there.

Well put, check my post in doveski's 'my 3k is buggin ' thread. I agree with the it's about how it makes you do things. It gets the dreative juices flowing like nothing else I've tried. What are you rocking now?

I have an emax and hae been using it a lot lately and I love it with my 60 mk I. they complement each other well.

My emax is an HD SE, with a scsi zip. Your HD is upgradable to an SE HD and external scsi, PM me if you want deails, I just updated a friend's HD to a SE and adding scsi isn't hard.

Now I've got 2 XL's, a SP, and this 60. Now that I'm used to the MPC, the SP's interface bugs me to use. I only use it to make sounds to sample back into the MPC.
Hopefully, the 60 will give me some middle ground.
I probably won't even touch it until I at least get the 3.1 upgrade.

Back to my question, will the regular floppy drive still work once you get the 3.1 and SCSI upgrade?

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itchyvinyl,
it still worked on my 60 and 60II, I think the problem is that some MPC60/60II's have a different floppy that cause the functionality problem.



elmacaco,
I'll get a you about the SE upgrade.
My basic weapons are
SP-1200, ASR, 2000xl, 60I, EmaxHD, S-900, S-950, ESI2000turbo, Moog Prodigy and a Rhodes MK-80 for my controller.
I pretty much just take time and work grooves if I find something I like then I start to look at where I want it to go.
Rarely do I not use the ASR and the ESI.
The ESI is the my workstation keyboard It has a ZIP, CD ROM and 3 harddrives.
Gives me the sounds of the Trinity, Triton, MoPhatt, Motif, Nord, Waldorf, Z-1, JV-2080, Virus, all my orchestral and string sound.
With the effects, filters and manipulative control of the ESI I can't think of a Workstation that could replace it.
One of the filters in the ESI is real similar to the Emax but with more control.
I just try different drum samplers based on the feel and sound of a track.

Nice, thanks for the details.

I So do you sequence off the ASR?

I take it to my grave the ASR doesn't have a sequencer.
I don't know what to call that thing.
Nah I stay away from it. The reason being if you every get comfortable on the ASR's seq it will make other seq feel funny.
I like to seq on the 2000xl just because it has a lot of quick tools for scratch pad work.
It's really hard to beat using the pads to turn tracks off.
Generally once I have an idea coming together I try to decide which machine to use for seq.
Not many keyboards I haven't owned or used but at some point I become bored or should I say uninspired by their sound, so I just stick with samplers.
It just so good now since most workstations use formats that are easy to convert to another format.
Add that to a vinyl library and you have a lot to work with.
Reminds me of back in the day when the guy with a Moog discovered he could run external sounds through it for even more sounds.

I agree with the others , os 3.10 and memory are the must have .Now for the scsi , i don't have it on mine and i found a way to manage my sounds .I just use a blank floppy and create folders on my pc and just transferring back and forth when i need to load so no more endless formatting on unreliable media .My computer hard drive is basically my 60 hard drive . By the way if your floppy drive is the stock one , it will work with 3.10 , mine did .
And i agree with ntalec everybody should have an emu sampler , it is just one of the best way once you found the right samples to improve the frequencies you want thanks to their filters ( even if the enveloppes are confusing sometimes )

I usually check and see if something is a good price, then I buy it. Not the other was around.

Either the buyer is not making a smart purchase or is just flaunting it.

what's good fellas, didn't want start a new thread for this...
i just copped myself an mpc60II (not so mint looking but works perfectly, no buttons missing or anything, just some worn spots where text is supposed to be) no scsi, maxed memory and 2.11 OS for 500 flat but i have a question

i will only be using it to sequence the asr-10 and bang out asr drums on it, is it safe to assume the extra options are unnecassary?

also, on the not so pretty piece what looks to me as the "hood" of the mpc with screws on each corner... are these replaceable? if so, where can i find one?

thanks in advance