Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By Certified Beatz Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:52 pm
Only problem is if and when release date is announced how long do we have to wait for the soft/hardware update..... are we talking months before an update just for a keyboard with the same functionality we have now.
By J.O.BEATS Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:36 am
MPD MPK RAY wrote:


but Greg....


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This MPC Key 61 along with the MPC X will have THE standalone beatmaking crown with those Herbie patches from AIR Vacuum and HYPE I imagine

:popcorn: :nod: :worthy:



I have no idea if you’re serious or not :lol:
By kday Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:52 am
I don't see why MPC owners are the most pessimistic about such an incredible keyboard workstation sampler that appears to be a ingenuous marketing concept, aside from the greatest sampling keyboard ever created. I think MPC owners miss the business standpoint of Akai's intended demographics for a new sampling keyboard in a market that hasn't had one in over forty years. This is humongous, and something I can see a large amount of people will gravitate to. Native instruments were closing in on this idea fast, and Akai had to do something or let Native Instruments Maschine makers build something before Akai did. Where Akai is at the moment with this concept is evolution. When you're leading the market, you have to remain leading the market otherwise you will fall behind and lose market share.

It's not what MPC you already got. Or what MPC or keyboard midi controller they already made, it's about a whole new keyboard machine that keyboard sampler lovers around the world will love, and there are many. Self contained sampling keyboards have been desired and pretty expensive since the beginning. When this technology first came out, the most expensive sampling keyboards were upwards of two hundred thousand dollars fully blown with just a few megabytes of memory. This is an idea most exciting than any workstation to come out in the last ten years. And for a dedicated sampling keyboard in the last forty years. Many people who love MPCs and can afford to buy it, will buy it. People who just love a sampling keyboard built to MPC standards will buy it. I don't think it will have any problem selling at all, especially if it's priced within the $2500- $2900 range. If it goes above the $3000 range the stock bread and butter sounds have to be top notch like Korg and Yamaha quality to justify equal pricing. i have an MPC X, and would sell all three of my top of line flagship big three workstations just to have this one and wouldn't look back. I help with the OS of the Alesis Fusion which tried something like this. It was difficult to sample, like other workstation samplers. But a keyboard workstation with an easy to use MPC interface and OS is probably as good as it's gonna get anywhere.
By Straker Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:28 pm
kday wrote:I don't see why MPC owners are the most pessimistic about such an incredible keyboard workstation sampler that appears to be a ingenuous marketing concept, aside from the greatest sampling keyboard ever created. I think MPC owners miss the business standpoint of Akai's intended demographics for a new sampling keyboard in a market that hasn't had one in over forty years. This is humongous, and something I can see a large amount of people will gravitate to. Native instruments were closing in on this idea fast, and Akai had to do something or let Native Instruments Maschine makers build something before Akai did. Where Akai is at the moment with this concept is evolution. When you're leading the market, you have to remain leading the market otherwise you will fall behind and lose market share.

It's not what MPC you already got. Or what MPC or keyboard midi controller they already made, it's about a whole new keyboard machine that keyboard sampler lovers around the world will love, and there are many. Self contained sampling keyboards have been desired and pretty expensive since the beginning. When this technology first came out, the most expensive sampling keyboards were upwards of two hundred thousand dollars fully blown with just a few megabytes of memory. This is an idea most exciting than any workstation to come out in the last ten years. And for a dedicated sampling keyboard in the last forty years. Many people who love MPCs and can afford to buy it, will buy it. People who just love a sampling keyboard built to MPC standards will buy it. I don't think it will have any problem selling at all, especially if it's priced within the $2500- $2900 range. If it goes above the $3000 range the stock bread and butter sounds have to be top notch like Korg and Yamaha quality to justify equal pricing. i have an MPC X, and would sell all three of my top of line flagship big three workstations just to have this one and wouldn't look back. I help with the OS of the Alesis Fusion which tried something like this. It was difficult to sample, like other workstation samplers. But a keyboard workstation with an easy to use MPC interface and OS is probably as good as it's gonna get anywhere.

The problem is the sound quality of MpC plugins.
They are not bad but not enough for a professional workstation.
Roland Yamaha and Korg are miles ahead for that.
By kday Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:41 pm
Straker wrote:The problem is the sound quality of MpC plugins.
They are not bad but not enough for a professional workstation.
Roland Yamaha and Korg are miles ahead for that.


But I would think that Akai like other companies would supply high quality wav samples and kits to remedy that bread and butter sounds quality problem, if they were gonna charge full workstation prices of above $3k. But since I figure they may charge less, then they would give high quality wav sample expansion kits along with those VSTs. But considering some of those VSTs are actually very good but sorta tiny or digital sounding in general, that will make up a lot of the difference for people expecting to get a high quality synthesizer out of a high quality sampler. I think the people that will buying a Key 61, will be buying it for what it offers as a sampling workstation, more than expecting to get a high quality ROMpler of Korg and Yamaha quality. Because if they did look for that sound quality in this sampling workstation, why not just buy one of those high quality low cost synth workstation instead and not be disappointed?
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By EnochLight Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:01 pm
Straker wrote:The problem is the sound quality of MpC plugins.
They are not bad but not enough for a professional workstation.


I simply do not agree with this. At all. :smoker:

Straker wrote:Roland Yamaha and Korg are miles ahead for that.


I'll give you that Roland's Zencore stuff is pretty damn awesome, and even Korg and Yamaha's workstation stuff is pretty nice. But what all 3 of them have missed (by a pretty wide margin IMHO) is what the MPC has in spades: sampling and workflow. All the awesome sounding plugins in the world aren't going to mean squat without that in place. But, horses for courses and all that...
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By jabberwalky Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:28 pm
They should just distance themselves from the construct of the "workstation" entirely. I'd love if they just went full speed keyboard sampler/sequencer.

The plugins are fine, and if you can't make decent sounds with them, you need to brush up on your sound sculpting or mixing. Anyways, it's primarily a damn sampler! Create your sounds in your "holy grail" source of choice and bring it back in.
By 40Beatz Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:43 pm
Problem is....A lot of users want High Quality Preset Samples WITHOUT having to perform any EQ/Comp/FX work on the Samples to clean them up and make em Unique.

I could Literally Fart on the Microphone and Create a High Quality Keygroup Program with Multiple Layers and Zones! :lol:
All within the MPC Hardware Environment

To Each Is Own Tho
By Certified Beatz Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:09 pm
kday wrote:I don't see why MPC owners are the most pessimistic about such an incredible keyboard workstation sampler that appears to be a ingenuous marketing concept, aside from the greatest sampling keyboard ever created. I think MPC owners miss the business standpoint of Akai's intended demographics for a new sampling keyboard in a market that hasn't had one in over forty years. This is humongous, and something I can see a large amount of people will gravitate to. Native instruments were closing in on this idea fast, and Akai had to do something or let Native Instruments Maschine makers build something before Akai did. Where Akai is at the moment with this concept is evolution. When you're leading the market, you have to remain leading the market otherwise you will fall behind and lose market share.

It's not what MPC you already got. Or what MPC or keyboard midi controller they already made, it's about a whole new keyboard machine that keyboard sampler lovers around the world will love, and there are many. Self contained sampling keyboards have been desired and pretty expensive since the beginning. When this technology first came out, the most expensive sampling keyboards were upwards of two hundred thousand dollars fully blown with just a few megabytes of memory. This is an idea most exciting than any workstation to come out in the last ten years. And for a dedicated sampling keyboard in the last forty years. Many people who love MPCs and can afford to buy it, will buy it. People who just love a sampling keyboard built to MPC standards will buy it. I don't think it will have any problem selling at all, especially if it's priced within the $2500- $2900 range. If it goes above the $3000 range the stock bread and butter sounds have to be top notch like Korg and Yamaha quality to justify equal pricing. i have an MPC X, and would sell all three of my top of line flagship big three workstations just to have this one and wouldn't look back. I help with the OS of the Alesis Fusion which tried something like this. It was difficult to sample, like other workstation samplers. But a keyboard workstation with an easy to use MPC interface and OS is probably as good as it's gonna get anywhere.



Well put and I agree with u well mostly I'm in my 40's I did buy a MPC3000 back in 94 loved it and still do.. I just bought a S900 used just to get the vintage sample sound and said to myself why did I buy this now it's in the box lol... now to the keyboard yes back in the 90's this was epic but now with komplete kontrol keyboards and that massive library this will be tough to match unless somehow this can host vst's and not just in the software which I do not like at all. I use my X standalone and my DAW cubase for tracking and as a sound MOD and of course my MPC for sequencing then I finish in cubase. So for myself unless this will host vst with a wrapper such app then it's pretty much a push for me..
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By Lampdog Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:01 pm
Straker wrote:The problem is the sound quality of MpC plugins.
They are not bad but not enough for a professional workstation..

They are good enough for professional work.
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By Lampdog Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:03 pm
40Beatz wrote:Problem is....A lot of users want High Quality Preset Samples WITHOUT having to perform any EQ/Comp/FX work on the Samples to clean them up and make em Unique.

This, this right here.
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By MPD MPK RAY Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:26 am
So you post this picture of that why guy with the afro meaning what? You think I'm stupid, huh?
YOU WANT MY RESPONSE but would cross the street and run the jewels in real life like most lil boys that reflect your tone up here and that avy picture yo.


AT LEAST I'm posting AKAI keyboards
; adding to the conversation, and teaching.





1 bad apple spoils the bunch.

You not even elaborating on any NEW thoughts just the same TROLLING.

Put THIS in your eye and burn out foo!

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