Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By KaoticShock Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:43 pm
Straker wrote:
jpeg wrote:the vacuum synth looks the most interesting but i wonder if all these new features will start to bloat the OS; I think they should give people to the option to uninstall features that that they dont want.

No way key61 standalone can have vacuum or loom or mini grand or other Air deep synths.
Not enough Ram, not enough powerful CPU.
Some people here are just being delirious.
If key61 has same ram and cpu of Mpc, just forget about it.


What is "Fabric XL" tho?
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By MPD MPK RAY Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:45 pm
KaoticShock wrote:"No way key61 standalone can have vacuum or loom or mini grand or other Air deep synths.
Not enough Ram, not enough powerful CPU"

I wouldn't make any hasty generalizations until we see an Andy Mack video.

Remember, Xpand!2, Mini Grand, and DB-33 only require 1GB of RAM. The rest of the AIR VSTi's only require 4GB, so it is possible that they either upgraded the RAM with a new SoC, or they made optimized versions of older plugins, just like how Vaccum Pro became Tubesynth.

Fabric XL may very well be a scaled down version of Structure. Don't doubt Akai, I think they still have some rabbits to pull out of the hat.

SPIT DAT MPC KEY 61 SHHH K!

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"What is "Fabric XL" tho?"
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By KaoticShock Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:48 pm
SakisX wrote:Still, I don't think other keyboard players would prefer it over the Roland Fantom-06 . In this category quality sounds/presets is the key ....
Also , for current mpc users ,could you explain to me why you'll buy it ? What's the benefit over your current mpc ?
Don't get me wrong , I hope sales will be great for Akai since it will help improving the MPC line (and Force)


Why buy it? Just like some people have the Live for on the Go and the One for in the studio, this would replace the One for in the studio.

Also, I think too many people are thinking that this is for current MPC owners.

This product was made to add new users to the community and to attempt to convert NI users. NI is currently failing terribly at standalone products, this makes the Komplete Kontrol and Maschine+Combo look less and less appealing.
By Straker Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:51 pm
KaoticShock wrote:"No way key61 standalone can have vacuum or loom or mini grand or other Air deep synths.
Not enough Ram, not enough powerful CPU"

I wouldn't make any hasty generalizations until we see an Andy Mack video.

Remember, Xpand!2, Mini Grand, and DB-33 only require 1GB of RAM. The rest of the AIR VSTi's only require 4GB, so it is possible that they either upgraded the RAM with a new SoC, or they made optimized versions of older plugins, just like how Vaccum Pro became Tubesynth.

Fabric XL may very well be a scaled down version of Structure. Don't doubt Akai, I think they still have some rabbits to pull out of the hat.

I don't doubt Akai, it is just that with current Ram and Cpu it will never happen, otherwise we would already have Loom, Vacuum and so on.
Then if they upgrade the Soc, they also have to make a specific firmware just for Key61.
I don't think that's the case with key61, unless I lost some information about more Ram and a more powerful CPU and a specific firmware just for key61
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By MPD MPK RAY Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:54 pm
Straker wrote:
KaoticShock wrote:"No way key61 standalone can have vacuum or loom or mini grand or other Air deep synths.
Not enough Ram, not enough powerful CPU"

I wouldn't make any hasty generalizations until we see an Andy Mack video.

Remember, Xpand!2, Mini Grand, and DB-33 only require 1GB of RAM. The rest of the AIR VSTi's only require 4GB, so it is possible that they either upgraded the RAM with a new SoC, or they made optimized versions of older plugins, just like how Vaccum Pro became Tubesynth.

Fabric XL may very well be a scaled down version of Structure. Don't doubt Akai, I think they still have some rabbits to pull out of the hat.

I don't doubt Akai, it is just that with current Ram and Cpu it will never happen, otherwise we would already have Loom, Vacuum and so on.
Then if they upgrade the Soc, they also have to make a specific firmware just for Key61.
I don't think that's the case with key61, unless I lost some information about more Ram and a more powerful CPU and a specific firmware just for key61

Today this(THE NEW STANDARD FOR LINUX BASED PLATFORMS AKA MPC) is out.
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InMusic(Alesis)
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FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK...
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By Straker Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:00 pm
@ Mpd Mpk Krk Trt Ssd

Yep, maybe you could try to be less cryptic?
Does key61 have a new CPU and more Ram?
Does it have its own specific firmware?
This would change all.
But nobody said this until now.
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By MPD MPK RAY Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:03 pm
Straker wrote:@ Mpd Mpk Krk Trt Ssd

Yep, maybe you could try to be less cryptic?
Does key61 have a new CPU and more Ram?
Does it have its own specific firmware?
This would change all.
But nobody said this until now.

:lol:

I'M ON YA'LL AZZ TODAY!

Bring me MY KEYBOARD INMUSIC!



ps: excuse me Dave and Roger(Linn). I think they did it. :worthy:
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By Straker Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:05 pm
MPD MPK RAY wrote:
Straker wrote:@ Mpd Mpk Krk Trt Ssd

Yep, maybe you could try to be less cryptic?
Does key61 have a new CPU and more Ram?
Does it have its own specific firmware?
This would change all.
But nobody said this until now.

:lol:

I'M ON YA'LL AZZ TODAY!

Bring me MY KEYBOARD INMUSIC!



ps: excuse me Roger(Linn). I think they did it.

Ok fine.
Apparently all answers to my question are YES.
But I wait for someone normal to confirm.
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By MPD MPK RAY Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:11 pm
Straker wrote:
MPD MPK RAY wrote: :lol:

I'M ON YA'LL AZZ TODAY!

Bring me MY KEYBOARD INMUSIC!



ps: excuse me Roger(Linn). I think they did it.

Ok fine.
Apparently all answers to my question are YES.
But I wait for someone normal to confirm.

My bad I'm on one.

I'm just saying we should be celebrating and having PATIENCE.

I looked up stuff with the same internet you woke up to.

Don't be a Debbie Downer Strake. :?

Have:


:P
By jloiben12 Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:12 pm
I just hope that Akai is as close to what I want as possible (listed below). If they can do all this, I would be very happy and have a little less cash.

-full MPC engine: this should take the MPC engine and supercharge it. Get rid of the limitations such as how few audio tracks are available (or make these types of limits so large that they are de facto unlimited). Modernize some of the workflow.
- the MPC engine serves as the "base" for the system
- 2 "MPC Keys" engines
(1) synth engine: this engine would be able to handle additive synthesis, FM synthesis, wavetable synthesis, and subtractive synthesis. The synth engine should have emulations of all different types of everything (oscillators, filters, etc with emulations from modular systems, classic synths, etc).
(2) rompler engine: this product should be a proper workstation. Proper workstations need the ability to generate all types of instruments.
- Each of the "MPC Keys" engines can have 16 parts and would basically be "plugins" within the main MPC engine
- unlimited polyphony (or de facto unlimited polyphony)

- 8 combi jacks for inputs
- 8 pairs of stereo outputs
- 8 midi out and 8 midi in
- 8 pairs of CV and gate outputs

- enough CPU and ram that you can *basically* use this as a replacement for an entire DAW, not just a workstation or a sampler (I am not saying that it has to handle 200 tracks of virtual instruments with full effects chains on each track but I should be able to get fully fleshed out songs with somewhat dense arrangements from just the keyboard)
- I would say what I want from a control surface perspective but we already know it will be too sparse. In an ideal world, there would be buttons and knobs across basically the entire panel.

- sub-$4k price
By Straker Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:16 pm
@ Mpd Mpk Mpc Mmt

Yeah ok.
You know, the same internet we have is full of infos and interpretations.
You are the first one that is talking or interpreting about more Ram amd a new Cpu on key61.
So better to wait for a confirm.
It would be superdope and the right step from Akai.
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By MPD MPK RAY Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:20 pm
Straker wrote:@ Mpd Mpk Mpc Mmt

Yeah ok.
You know, the same internet we have is full of infos and interpretations.
You are the first one that is talking or interpreting about more Ram amd a new Cpu on key61.
So better to wait for a confirm.
It would be superdope and the right step from Akai.

There we go!

A lil present from me to you and ALL MY MPC FORUM BROS! :nod:


Either way it go WE WIN! - I'm gettin it! AAAAAND the X! :worthy:
By Straker Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:38 pm
Well it's years that I am saying that with more Ram and a more powerful CPU, Mpc would crush the competition.
And then yes, this way it could really compete with Fantom and other workstations.
Let's see.
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By MPD MPK RAY Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:45 pm
Straker wrote:Well it's years that I am saying that with more Ram and a more powerful CPU, Mpc would crush the competition.
And then yes, this way it could really compete with Fantom and other workstations.
Let's see.

And I'm telling you I will buy 2 MPCs and ABLETON LINK 3 dem Hoes to make you take this L

8) :popcorn:

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I'm gettin it and it WILL HAVE A COMPLETE WORKSTATION PATCH LIST
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By Fre$hBreath Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:47 pm
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Why is this MPC X/MPC Live II owner already saying yes to buying the MPC Keys 61?

Yeah I know it's redundant, to be perfectly honest it's gear lust and greed and all though I don't really have room for it, I will make room for it, because I want it.

I don't need it, I just want it.