mpc_fan_2022 wrote:Sequences can be up to 999 bars, so obviously you can use a single sequence to build a song.
Now is it the easiest way to make a song is anybody's guess...
Song Mode lets you arrange sequences in a specific order and/or repetition to create songs
HouseWithoutMouse wrote:Even in Force and the Arranger that many people seem to want so badly in MPCs, it isn't really practical to build everything into the arrangement tracks, because there are no _clips_ or other container blocks there, it's like one huge MPC Sequence. The arrangement is supposed to be used as an intermediate stage where you record a performance of your scenes and clips, and you can do some fine-tuning of individual notes and automation. But because there are no clips on the arrangement tracks, working with song blocks is not very practical. When you record things into the arrangement, MIDI events go straight on the tracks, and there's no container block element between track and event. (Except for audio tracks there's the Region concept, but there are no "MIDI regions".)
SakisX wrote:HouseWithoutMouse wrote:Even in Force and the Arranger that many people seem to want so badly in MPCs, it isn't really practical to build everything into the arrangement tracks, because there are no _clips_ or other container blocks there, it's like one huge MPC Sequence. The arrangement is supposed to be used as an intermediate stage where you record a performance of your scenes and clips, and you can do some fine-tuning of individual notes and automation. But because there are no clips on the arrangement tracks, working with song blocks is not very practical. When you record things into the arrangement, MIDI events go straight on the tracks, and there's no container block element between track and event. (Except for audio tracks there's the Region concept, but there are no "MIDI regions".)
+1000
It's not even an arranger , it doesn't arrange anything (scenes/clips) , just a classic linear recorder
I got the Force and still haven't touched the "arranger" . I will definitely use it if I finish something and want to write automation for master or submixes . Working linear on this small screen ,scrolling zooming , plus few hit or miss on touch (it's not an ipad) , is hard for me .
I'm sure most mpc users haven't tried the arranger , maybe it worth spending some time with the hakai firmware to simply test the Force OS on MPC (and the "arranger")
You've basically burnt your MIDI notes and audio on a linear timeline, and after that there's only minor polishing to do. After I learned what the idea actually is, I've only used it as a tool for making audio mixdowns. And it is true that you have to record a performance to get a damn mixdown done. Why do people want this for the MPC? Maybe because they don't know what it is. Arranger = one big sequence. I can understand why people prefer the MPC song mode. But myself, I'm much more comfortable with Force's clips and scenes than with the MPC song mode and its sequences.HouseWithoutMouse wrote:It just now occurred to me how tragicomic a misnomer "arranger" is. After you've recorded your things into the arranger, you don't really arrange anything anymore.
One thing about the Force that doesn't get mentioned often is that you can have some tracks coming from the linear arrangement, and others from clips. That way the arrangement can work as a performance tool.
zipdisk wrote:My question is can I replace sequences with tracks in song mode?
mpc_fan_2022 wrote:Sequences can be up to 999 bars, so obviously you can use a single sequence to build a song.
Now is it the easiest way to make a song is anybody's guess...
