Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By osquare Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:24 pm
Hi, I'm mostly a synth player but have some experience with samplers like the MPC Live. I have a budget now for a new synth and wanting to add a workstation-style keyboard to the setup I stumbled on the MPC Key. It looks interesting with the powerful sequencing of the MPC live setup.

The current plugin lineup in the MPC Key is nice, for the purpose of a workstation. But I was wondering if it's possible to add other Live plugins, specifically the Air Hype to the plugin library of the Key?

The Hype page on the MPC site (https://www.akaipro.com/mpc-air-hype-synth) doesn't specifically state the Key is supported but it would be strange to me that you couldn't add it to it since it's essentially the same hardware/software?
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By Lampdog Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:40 pm
If you purchase an MPC KEY61 you will get several free plugins and Hype is included, yes.
No extra purchase necessary.


By LivePsy Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:48 pm
In my view a Kronos far exceeds the 61's plugins for, well, anything. Superb pianos, strings, synths, rompler. Compliments with MPC One or Live perfectly. They pair as a DAW. The Kronos is the quality plugin and song length audio/midi recorder while the MPC is the creative sampling and pattern expert.

While that cost is stratospheric, its the big picture. The MPCKey61 plugins and MPC software plugins strike me as the B grade sold on those VST sites or Magix. Not bad but not worthy of full cost either. In my view there's better 'value' and potential in a good workstation and a pad based MPC.



osquare wrote:Hi, I'm mostly a synth player but have some experience with samplers like the MPC Live. I have a budget now for a new synth and wanting to add a workstation-style keyboard to the setup I stumbled on the MPC Key. It looks interesting with the powerful sequencing of the MPC live setup.

The current plugin lineup in the MPC Key is nice, for the purpose of a workstation. But I was wondering if it's possible to add other Live plugins, specifically the Air Hype to the plugin library of the Key?

The Hype page on the MPC site (https://www.akaipro.com/mpc-air-hype-synth) doesn't specifically state the Key is supported but it would be strange to me that you couldn't add it to it since it's essentially the same hardware/software?
By kday Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:16 am
LivePsy wrote:In my view a Kronos far exceeds the 61's plugins for, well, anything. Superb pianos, strings, synths, rompler. Compliments with MPC One or Live perfectly. They pair as a DAW. The Kronos is the quality plugin and song length audio/midi recorder while the MPC is the creative sampling and pattern expert.

While that cost is stratospheric, its the big picture. The MPCKey61 plugins and MPC software plugins strike me as the B grade sold on those VST sites or Magix. Not bad but not worthy of full cost either. In my view there's better 'value' and potential in a good workstation and a pad based MPC.



osquare wrote:Hi, I'm mostly a synth player but have some experience with samplers like the MPC Live. I have a budget now for a new synth and wanting to add a workstation-style keyboard to the setup I stumbled on the MPC Key. It looks interesting with the powerful sequencing of the MPC live setup.

The current plugin lineup in the MPC Key is nice, for the purpose of a workstation. But I was wondering if it's possible to add other Live plugins, specifically the Air Hype to the plugin library of the Key?

The Hype page on the MPC site (https://www.akaipro.com/mpc-air-hype-synth) doesn't specifically state the Key is supported but it would be strange to me that you couldn't add it to it since it's essentially the same hardware/software?


The Kronos it seems has better synth engines, and a better Keybed. But you're paying top dollar for Kronos quality, but having better stock sounds than what's in a sampling Keyboard instrument like a Key61 would no longer mean nothing, when you can sample even better sounds that the Kronos doesn't has right into your Key61.

I usually deal with sampled sounds, and the Key61 VST synths engines are pretty good, of course not the best but very good, the other features would weigh in on what's the overall best for the workflow. I't would be wise for Akai to come out with many more synth engines since they built up a large user base with the Key 61 and MPC community. And I know there will be new synth presets coming out from various companies, but I hope they come out with more synth engines instead of waiting until the next MPC product release in a few years.
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By Lampdog Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:34 pm
kday wrote:…..when you can sample even better sounds that the Kronos doesn't has right into your Key61.

That seems to not be a point when Kronos can sample also.
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By Lampdog Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:26 pm
I can’t front on that part right there. It’s not AT ALL as easy to go from sample in to note assignment as mpc’s.
By LivePsy Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:41 pm
Sampling on the Kronos is for complex multis. Its not a joke, its for something completely different. Considering the excellent libraries you can buy for the Kronos, it will always be better than an MPC plugin for emulating a real world instrument.
By osquare Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:38 am
Really appreciate all the helpful replies here, thanks. Got the answer as well in the music store on Hype when we were checking the available plugins on the MPC Key (2.11 + new plugin set). Ordered the Key and hopefully it'll arrive here this week.

kday wrote:
LivePsy wrote:In my view a Kronos far exceeds the 61's plugins for, well, anything. Superb pianos, strings, synths, rompler. Compliments with MPC One or Live perfectly. They pair as a DAW. The Kronos is the quality plugin and song length audio/midi recorder while the MPC is the creative sampling and pattern expert.

While that cost is stratospheric, its the big picture. The MPCKey61 plugins and MPC software plugins strike me as the B grade sold on those VST sites or Magix. Not bad but not worthy of full cost either. In my view there's better 'value' and potential in a good workstation and a pad based MPC.


The Kronos it seems has better synth engines, and a better Keybed. But you're paying top dollar for Kronos quality, but having better stock sounds than what's in a sampling Keyboard instrument like a Key61 would no longer mean nothing, when you can sample even better sounds that the Kronos doesn't has right into your Key61.

I usually deal with sampled sounds, and the Key61 VST synths engines are pretty good, of course not the best but very good, the other features would weigh in on what's the overall best for the workflow. I't would be wise for Akai to come out with many more synth engines since they built up a large user base with the Key 61 and MPC community. And I know there will be new synth presets coming out from various companies, but I hope they come out with more synth engines instead of waiting until the next MPC product release in a few years.


I had the Korg Krome for a while years ago, and tested the Kronos in store. Not sure if it is still the case with the latest line of the Kronos (2? X?) but I always found the UI of it to be horrendous and uninspiring to work with, especially the sequencing.

The MPC Key seems to be more of a direct creative approach kind of keyboard, not so much as it is a workstation but rather a sequencer/synthesizer with VST and Sampler capabilities. That's what caught my interest to it. The quality of the plugins in it may be of less quality but if it's good enough to cover the sound, that's fine. Plus the autosampling of other synths capability of the MPC.
By LivePsy Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:38 pm
kday wrote:
LivePsy wrote:In my view a Kronos far exceeds the 61's plugins for, well, anything. Superb pianos, strings, synths, rompler. Compliments with MPC One or Live perfectly. They pair as a DAW. The Kronos is the quality plugin and song length audio/midi recorder while the MPC is the creative sampling and pattern expert.

While that cost is stratospheric, its the big picture. The MPCKey61 plugins and MPC software plugins strike me as the B grade sold on those VST sites or Magix. Not bad but not worthy of full cost either. In my view there's better 'value' and potential in a good workstation and a pad based MPC.


The Kronos it seems has better synth engines, and a better Keybed. But you're paying top dollar for Kronos quality, but having better stock sounds than what's in a sampling Keyboard instrument like a Key61 would no longer mean nothing, when you can sample even better sounds that the Kronos doesn't has right into your Key61.

I usually deal with sampled sounds, and the Key61 VST synths engines are pretty good, of course not the best but very good, the other features would weigh in on what's the overall best for the workflow. I't would be wise for Akai to come out with many more synth engines since they built up a large user base with the Key 61 and MPC community. And I know there will be new synth presets coming out from various companies, but I hope they come out with more synth engines instead of waiting until the next MPC product release in a few years.


I had the Korg Krome for a while years ago, and tested the Kronos in store. Not sure if it is still the case with the latest line of the Kronos (2? X?) but I always found the UI of it to be horrendous and uninspiring to work with, especially the sequencing.

The MPC Key seems to be more of a direct creative approach kind of keyboard, not so much as it is a workstation but rather a sequencer/synthesizer with VST and Sampler capabilities. That's what caught my interest to it. The quality of the plugins in it may be of less quality but if it's good enough to cover the sound, that's fine. Plus the autosampling of other synths capability of the MPC.[/quote]

The Kronos interface is indeed horrendous, my biggest complaint about it. But it offers linear song recording (to use alongside the MPC patterns), full 8 stereo audio tracks, DAW like mixdown and plugins far exceeding the MPC. I think they complement each other very well. Neither is a complete creative space on their own.
By osquare Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:23 pm
LivePsy wrote:The Kronos interface is indeed horrendous, my biggest complaint about it. But it offers linear song recording (to use alongside the MPC patterns), full 8 stereo audio tracks, DAW like mixdown and plugins far exceeding the MPC. I think they complement each other very well. Neither is a complete creative space on their own.


Yeah, it's something that's defined on a personal level, a lot of artists use the Kronos on their live setup. I just didn't have the greatest experience during the time I had the Krome, and when I see that menu style again...it's 2022 Korg, not 2002, come on.

I have the MPC Key as of yesterday, I must say there is a lot you get in this MPC package and the whole process feels intuitive, quickly tapping between every part of the mix. Love the ability to layer a lot of sounds on each other, combined with the sequencing. It's easy to create something nice on the go.

I do get the comments though on the plugins; they are fine, but nothing exceptional. I got the impression a lot of the default patches are variations of the Fabric XL engine as well, with different sources (Piano, String, ...). And Hype is a typical VA-like plugin you would find in any DAW, though it does do the job.

The keybed is absolutely fine though, feels solid like the Virus TI keybed. Though I wonder if there is any velocity control like you can set on the pads.