Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By bigr31 Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:32 pm
How do i make an audio cd. i've created my music on the 4k and now want to burn a cd
By renegadebliss Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:43 pm
bigr31 wrote:How do i make an audio cd. i've created my music on the 4k and now want to burn a cd



Hi,
There is no current way to Burn an Audio CD on the MPC 4000's CD Burner.
There is an RFE (Request for Enhancement) into Akai to provide this feature.
It is not something that they have advertised, so do NOT have to implement,
but many users would use it if it was implemented. And technically should
be VERY easy to implement on the MPC, as Akai already has written the
code on the DPS24 to be able to burn Red Book Audio CD's, so would just
need to to port that bit of code over to the MPC, but so far, no current OS
has implemented this.

The current method that we use.

In the Record page, you can change the inputs to "Main Out" so the
MPC will record whatever you are hearing as a wav file. As long
as you have enough RAM memory, you can use this method to create a
wav file of your MPC material. From there you can either burn a
data cd or use ak.sys to transfer to a PC to burn as an Audio CD.


Cheers,

Dave
By bigr31 Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:50 pm
thanks. i did that and it worked....i use the triton extreme to add sounds to my beat. when i try to record the completed song with the 4k and the triton all i get is the sound from the 4k....
I record drums on the 4k, then i go to the triton to add diff elements. when trying to record i lose the triton sounds...i've searched everywhere for this
By renegadebliss Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:41 pm
bigr31 wrote:thanks. i did that and it worked....i use the triton extreme to add sounds to my beat. when i try to record the completed song with the 4k and the triton all i get is the sound from the 4k....
I record drums on the 4k, then i go to the triton to add diff elements. when trying to record i lose the triton sounds...i've searched everywhere for this



OH.. ok, so you're using external instruments (I do as well). The MPC
itself has no knowledge of your external synth other then possibily sequenceing it. What you would need to do, in order to get the
Triton stuff into the MPC is to record all of what the Triton is doing as a
sample. Then play that Sample at the same time as your MPC stuff
while following the steps for recording the Main Out's.

The exact steps that you will need to do, was posted by Rob of this forum
from some messages that he recieved from Sean of Akai. These steps
are great! I've used the first method to record my external analog synths
and be able to have them now sequenced internally by the MPC, and
then can get a full mixdown within the MPC. The limitation that you
will run into, is in regards to RAM. As you will be recording the external
synths as samples, which take up RAM. As well as you can't change
the BPM, as the MPC doesn't have realtime timestretching. So wait
until you've finalized your song and then follow below steps to
get the extenal synths internally.

*******Emulating DAW Recording *******

A) To emulate auto-recording with a pre-programmed MIDI note:

* Prepare an empty Drum Program and in Zone, force all KGs to CONST/ONE SHOT
* In MULTI, assign this Program to a Part of the current Multi, and assign
this Part to an internal MIDI channel, say 1B
* In RECORD, set Trigger via MIDI note on the same MIDI channel, say 1B, and set a slightly longer record time than you want to record (so you can manually stop recording when needed)
* In MAIN, set a new Drum Track out to INT-B, Ch:1
* IN STEP EDIT, insert a note, say Pad A01, at the time where you want to
start recording
* In RECORD, arm recording (waiting for MIDI note)
* Put the sequence in Play
* At the pre-programmed time (Pad event), recording will start automatically
* When you want to end recording, press F6:STOP, or wait until record
finishes automatically at the end of the programmed record time
* Press F5: ADD PGM, select the empty Drum Program prepared above
* Hit the same Pad, say A01, and press F6:DO IT
-> the recorded sample will play in sync with the rest of the sequence


B) To emulate recording on-the-fly:

* Prepare an empty Drum Program and in Zone, force all KGs to CONST/ONE SHOT
* In MULTI, assign this Program to a Part of the current Multi, and assign
this Part to an internal MIDI channel, say 1B
* In RECORD, set Trigger via MIDI note on the sane MIDI channel, say 1B, and set a slightly longer record time than you want to record (so you can
manually stop recording when needed)
* In MAIN, set a new Drum Track out to INT-B, Ch:1
* Turn Timing Correct OFF (so that the MIDI note is not quantized)
* In RECORD, arm recording (waiting for MIDI note)
* Put the sequence in Record (PLAY+REC or PLAY START+REC)
* When you want to start recording, hit a Pad (Full Level), say Pad A01
* When you want to end recording, press F6:STOP, or wait until record
finishes automatically at the end of the programmed record time
* Press F5: ADD PGM, select the empty Drum Program prepared above
* Hit the same Pad, say A01, and press F6:DO IT
-> the recorded sample will play in sync with the rest of the sequence


Of course, if you want to make multiple recordings, you will need to select
a new Track, and change the MIDI channel or assign the already "recorded" track out to PART (so that it doesn't send the MIDI note to the trigger Channel).
Again, this can be planned ahead of time by preparing the "recording" Tracks in advance and only changing the Track Out (Channel or Part) for each recording."

***

Cheers,


Dave
By bigr31 Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:46 pm
thanks. I tried it and still can't get the triton sound like u stated. Maybe I'm missing something, can u be a little more specific.
By renegadebliss Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:32 pm
bigr31 wrote:thanks. I tried it and still can't get the triton sound like u stated. Maybe I'm missing something, can u be a little more specific.


I'm not sure if I can be more specific then above.

Basically what I'm indicating is that you have to "sample" any external instruments
into the MPC. Once they are recorded or sampled in the MPC itself, then you
can then sequence that sample internally so that when you play the MPC you
hear all of the sounds. You can turn off your triton at ths point, becuase it willl
be all inside the MPC. But until you get the sample inside the MPC and trigger the
sample, you won't be able to record it all to wav file with the steps.

The steps that I copied and pasted from another Forum post, is the exact steps
that you need to do.

But the main thing to remember, is that recording the "Main Out" to a wav file, will only
record what you hear from the main outs. So if you do not have the MPC playing the
Triton Samples that method won't record it.


Alternately, you can plug the out of your mixing board to your computer and record them
both at the same time as a wav with your own Sound Editor on your PC/Mac and then
burn from there.