dnb, breaks, house, downtempo tips!! get it started!

ha ha no you're not stupid...
It's Su Ami as in Suomi as in Suomi Finland!

Makes it sound a lot more exotic don't it..

yeah definitly...thought it was african or summink....still finland is cool...

greg

It definitely is cool ...
It's like what, the middle of june and I'm wearing a pair of long trousers and a thick black hoodie!


Bring on the hot weather, I'm ready!

gutted its sweltering here...

greg

I asked someone once what the difference is in producing Trance and House / Techno

Trance is mostly composition - you can get by with a basic 4/4 kick, hat snare but you really have to have really solid arp'd chords and chord progressions (I think) - I think this is true for dub and dowtempo stuff as well

But house / techno is mostly samples - sample my friend, sample - when I stopped trying to compose (which I have no clue about) and started sampling records the matrix was revealed to me - today I'm going to learn the japanese language, as well as learn to slow the concept of time down so people can shoot at me.

Sample beats, put them all together until you get something that jacks...trust dat

But with techno pleeeaaassseeeeee make sure that you are doing something to make the samples sound like you, something to inovate, rather than just jacking loops and dropping them into your tracks as the main drums...
I'm down with sampling, but there IS a fine line when it comes to production using other people's sounds.
Why not get yourself a synth, and make your sounds. Hell, most software synths have presets that will get you damn close to the sound you want. Tweek it a little, add your favorite plugs, and bounce it to audio. voila, sample. This takes a little more time, but the results will be ALL yours.

professor wrote:But with techno pleeeaaassseeeeee make sure that you are doing something to make the samples sound like you...there IS a fine line when it comes to production using other people's sounds...most software synths have presets...Tweek it a little, add your favorite plugs, and bounce it to audio...This takes a little more time, but the results will be ALL yours.

True dat (kinda - presets? all yours? hmmmm?) - you really have to work to make something out of what you got but - Presets are no different than sampling a beat - with techno, you have to realize the beats your sampling are samples of samples that were sampled - but hey, we're all in the same gang so...my nephew is a Taiwanese BGD (Black Gangsta Deciple) and I just recently submitted my application to be a Asian Blood -

I prefer not to use presets (Hence selling most of my hardware) I think Ableton and the Electrix Filter Factory do a mighty fine job of disguising the TRUTH!

ill sample but wont use percussion or drum loops as i like to program my own...definitly need to sample for some types of house....

oh and i'd say trance is quite a different kettle of fish as its not really funky, much more melodic (or neoclassical shall i say) and normally involves loads of layers and spangly effects....house and techno can be much more raw....
oh and i'd never use an arp for dub

greg

there a lot of good info on the net on making drum and bass patterns. basicly the best things to do is chop that break and get tapping. if you find you havent got tight enought rolls or whatever. double your tempo and space your sequences out.

Hey Dub, you get that book yet?
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Finally got it swiss er i mean shadow- already had some fun creating some little beats- is giving me a better understanding of how a drummer does these beats and am now trying get things to work with just three or four drums-

the stuff about the funk grooves is well cool as are the transcribed classic rhythms- yeah good book thanks for the headsup...

greg

Check your PMs Greg - Justin

dug up one of my threads didn't ya..

yar- thought wasn't worth starting a new one just to agree with cheese for peeps to get this book...or any book which teachs you the basics of breaks from a drummers point of view...turns out i was over-complicating things when trying to recreate natural rhythms.....

greg

how? im kinda struggling to build that solid drumline to build on..you know real simple but effective...

well most breaks can be just a snare bass and hat and i was sometimes adding more elements to try and get the groove and the tickle but realised its just down to matched drum sounds and programming like a drummer plays:

h x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
s ---x--x-x--x---
b x--------xx--x-

i would always start trying to do the tickles with two many elements and it would always sound too cluttered- so less is more...

greg