MPC XL - CODE NAME ACV5S - A NEW MPC X FOR SOON ?

I was saying that if people made all their music only from things they sampled themselves, not from data-intensive plugins and libraries they bought, memory consumption would look completely different. 1 gigabyte of free sampling memory is a lot.

Then look at what's being sold: gigabytes of ready-made products for you to consume. More gbs, better product, goes the logic in marketing. If you go that way, you'll more likely have a problem with ram getting full.

HouseWithoutMouse wrote:I was saying that if people made all their music only from things they sampled themselves, not from data-intensive plugins and libraries they bought, memory consumption would look completely different. 1 gigabyte of free sampling memory is a lot.

Then look at what's being sold: gigabytes of ready-made products for you to consume. More gbs, better product, goes the logic in marketing. If you go that way, you'll more likely have a problem with ram getting full.

This still don't make sense.
You do know the plugins are optional & can be deactivated?
& even if people didn't use the plugins they would still reach the ram limit because that' just what beat makers do.
Who buys every ready-made product knowing there's a ram limit & expect to use it all at the same time? - Sound like you want a PC which is cool too.
Also more GB's better make a better product LOL.

Lack of disk streaming is another thing. Remember Gigasampler, anyone? In case not, here's a reminder https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ne ... ampler-v15

That might be worth reading, because the same benefits would apply to the MPC of today. Use sample libraries several dozen times larger than system RAM, and with fast load times.

How much RAM did you have in samplers or PCs back in 1998? How many gigabytes? What about the SSDs... No, memory sizes were expressed in megabytes and hard drives were of the spinning magnetic disk variety, meaning access times of something like 10 milliseconds to even locate the beginning of your data, and still Gigasampler was possible.

MPC-Tutor wrote:I believe he's possibly predicting a time in the future when all content within the MPC has to be purchased from the 'MENU > inMusic Sounds Store', and the sampler itself will no longer be included. Plugin presets and ready-made kits & instruments only, etc.

Man, don't tell me no scary stories like that before I go to sleep
Now I gotta go make 1 of those happy rap beats Bernie Mac (RIP) was talking about

40Beatz wrote:We have to realize...

The concept of Akai Business Practice back in the day was...to create Product(s) with the Ability to stretch the Imagination of the Intended use of each Product Category. ex. Drum Machines, Samplers, Mixers, Synthesizers, etc. In Turn...Akai created Revenue from the Quality of their Products...

Now Akai(InMusic) Concept is to Generate Revenue by Cramming ALL the Product Categories into One Or Two Products to Increase Revenue.
Not so much Quality now, but Quantity!
Customers that Have Music Knowledge, Manual Sonic Creativity, etc...is NOT the Target Audience anymore.

Instant Sounds, Effect Presets, Automatic Sequence Building,...is the type of Revenue Driven Audience Akai is Lookin for!

New Millennium, New Money! sad

I think Akai's business model is the same as it always been, minus the non profitable selling instruments. They still make synthesizers, and beat boxes. The mixers and other audio weren't selling enough to support, and all non profitable products. The new business model is better than the old I think. Akai's new machines and keyboards are as high quality as they've ever been to me. Progression is what I thought everybody had asked for. Everybody wants an MPC that leads the musical world, from what I read here. But since new features are free when they add them on, I guess, it's not a bad thing. That's even if we don't use the extra features now, but we might need them in the future. Technology and progression is inevitable in musical electronics, just like it is in every other aspect of modern society, and I think Akai is going in the right direction.

HouseWithoutMouse wrote:Lack of disk streaming is another thing. Remember Gigasampler, anyone?
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How much RAM did you have in samplers or PCs back in 1998? How many gigabytes? ...

Yes, I faintly remember... a Celeron 333 Mhz, 128 MegaBytes of RAM, 10 MBit coax Ethernet. And I could play that 1GB piano thing via network connection without any glitches

I'm sellin my X

I can't make beats knowing my dream of the REN standalone finally came true!

Nice..!!

Isn’t it just an X with a retro face lift and more Ram?

Do you but I don’t understand why people lose their shit over retro color way

J.O.BEATS wrote:Isn’t it just an X with a retro face lift and more Ram?

Do you but I don’t understand why people lose their shit over retro color way

Looks better in black. Just need to ditch the red sides.

Looks like the changes are just a refresh. And it looks like you can get a good deal on the black and red one now, the price just dropped.

eLuSiVeMiTe wrote:

J.O.BEATS wrote:Isn’t it just an X with a retro face lift and more Ram?

Do you but I don’t understand why people lose their shit over retro color way

Looks better in black. Just need to ditch the red sides.

Agree. The live 2 retro looks good. But this doesnt look as slick. But regardless, who’s buying this if they already have an x? Seems like a pretty small market…

It does look to me the same as the X.
Maybe 4gb ram and all plugins like the Key version?
Still too big, clunky, a waste of space.
If they come out with a Live with 4gb Ram and plugins, I will start to think about it.

Straker wrote:It does look to me the same as the X.
Maybe 4gb ram and all plugins like the Key version?
Still too big, clunky, a waste of space.
If they come out with a Live with 4gb Ram and plugins, I will start to think about it.

Clunky and waste of space.. everything is right in front of you not as much menu diving.. as a X owner I love my X but not spending another $2200 for 2 gigs and ethernet port. Also noe the hardware doesn't match the software color wise...