
By nobledru
Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:30 pm
I have the effects board and I never use it. It might come in handy for live shows. But if you are using it for recording, stick to outboard gear or software for effects. The effects are not that great.

By itchyvinyl
Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:05 am
The sounds really aren't very great...but it's a good simple solution for playing live. And for pre-production it's good for use as a kind of scratch pad for fx ideas. Hell, I've even found some settings that have a weird so-bad-it's-good kind of vibe that I might even use in a final mix.
It's worth having, but the 8-outs is a more important upgrade for studio work.
It's worth having, but the 8-outs is a more important upgrade for studio work.
By nanoloop
Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:26 am
i use them in every beat i make on the mpc. the ' four band eq ' has 2 lfo's and is great for string and sweep sounds and the odd pulsating bass. the chorus & distortion rock. Few different delays (mono, stereo, x over) Reverbs arnt to bad. Try using the rotary speaker simulator on a nice rhodes auto chromed sample, using the modwhell for the movement speed. sounds dope. The pitch feedback/delay options i dont use all the time. i use ring mod sometimes. p/feedback and ring mod i tend to use more for techno and harder styles of music as the results are brash & digitali. the distorion can be used to dirty up any sound especially breaks really brings out a sheen on some samples. the 8 outs adds more fleixibilty being by able to route FX1,FX2,Rev1,Rev2 on there own individual outputs to the mixer for better balance and further tweakidge.
Personally i feel the Fx are not weak, when used correctly. I dished out the coin, so i chose to learn this card inside and out. And i am happily satisfied. Even though i do run other external fx and filters. i will always find a need for the EB16.. my only gripe is no ability to resample after the effects have been applied.
You might be better to get the 8 outs and a 8 input soundcard. fuk cool edit off. and get some real software package with some decent fx.
Personally i feel the Fx are not weak, when used correctly. I dished out the coin, so i chose to learn this card inside and out. And i am happily satisfied. Even though i do run other external fx and filters. i will always find a need for the EB16.. my only gripe is no ability to resample after the effects have been applied.
You might be better to get the 8 outs and a 8 input soundcard. fuk cool edit off. and get some real software package with some decent fx.
By Kilowax
Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:03 pm
nano:"my only gripe is no ability to resample after the fx..."
the XL's endless tragedy
...
also, i was wondering why you can't "automate" each FX's level tracks, like in the mixer?

the XL's endless tragedy
also, i was wondering why you can't "automate" each FX's level tracks, like in the mixer?
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By RonDu
Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:32 pm
The effects card is great- if you know how to use it 
I feel like Diamond D, the best producer on the mic...

By DSTRUCT
Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:35 pm
RonDu wrote:The effects card is great- if you know how to use it
exactly. i swear by it
By Kilowax
Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:48 pm
RonDu wrote:The effects card is great- if you know how to use it
Did you know how to record FXs automation? like the level/pan in mixer?
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By RonDu
Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:52 pm
I'm not sure. I will have to try it out
I feel like Diamond D, the best producer on the mic...

By McSmooth
Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:01 am
^^^Reread nanoloops post (notice how he didn't even mention reverb). If all you need is top notch reverb (especially if you soak your samples with verb), then I would agree to look elsewhere. If you learn how to use it properly it is a necesary tool to make things easier as well as getting new sounds. If you aren't using verb heavily, it works more than fine for live and as a scratchpad as mentioned above.
People that bash the verb, what do you expect for $200 on a 4 channel multi effect? You can easily spend 500 and a single channel verb alone and people will say its not that good (usually comparing to the $2000 plugin they stole off the internet).
People that bash the verb, what do you expect for $200 on a 4 channel multi effect? You can easily spend 500 and a single channel verb alone and people will say its not that good (usually comparing to the $2000 plugin they stole off the internet).

By Lampdog
Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:07 am
Deal426 wrote:Anyone who swears by those cards obviously have no taste. Have you heard the reverb in it?
I love my litte card.
By Liam Kincaid
Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:13 am
McSmooth wrote:You can easily spend 500 and a single channel verb alone and people will say its not that good (usually comparing to the $2000 plugin they stole off the internet)
You can't download Hardware


