Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By B-Wise Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:02 am
MPC-Tutor wrote:
B-Wise wrote:If this forum wasn't here we would be somewhere else. The internet is a big place. Your past contributions should be respected, but that doesn't give you a pass to project your subjective options as fact & not get any push back or expect anybody to kiss your ass. Sorry, maybe because I from Harlem NYC & we can be argumentative, I don't play that you know who I am Shi*, but that's subjective.


He wasn't asking to kiss his ass and he wasn't saying 'do you know who I am', I'm the one who pointed out who he was.

Anyway, whatever man, you do you.

Damn, my bad I mixed up who I was replying to - you can delete it if you want.
By brutzero Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:44 pm
mrmarbury wrote:Wow it’s even less innovative than I’ve feared … What a time to be alive :WTF:


What were you expecting/hoping for? Serious question. I had a feeling this ram upgrade and new skin was what we were getting. Also pretty disappointed, but the writing was on the wall once we figured out that there was no FCC filings for a new machine. They could have at least put the touch strip and a pushable jog wheel on this thing. If that's not even on there, what a cop out. That being said, I'll buy this, because I want the q-links, cv and large screen.

On another note, I listened to some of you mix in sig, it's good! I'm a huge electro fan, probably not many of us on here.
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By mrmarbury Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:48 pm
brutzero wrote:What were you expecting/hoping for? Serious question. I had a feeling this ram upgrade and new skin was what we were getting. Also pretty disappointed, but the writing was on the wall once we figured out that there was no FCC filings for a new machine. They could have at least put the touch strip and a pushable jog wheel on this thing. If that's not even on there, what a cop out. That being said, I'll buy this, because I want the q-links, cv and large screen.

Tbh I expected this all to be fake. Especially when no FCC filing would appear. Especially with the 35. bday of the MPC and imho even more important 50 years of HipHop I did think InMusic would do a bit better here.

brutzero wrote:On another note, I listened to some of you mix in sig, it's good! I'm a huge electro fan, probably not many of us on here.

Heh, I appreciate that. I love this mixture of robotic beats with a sci-fi/dystopia twist. And yeah unfortunately we might be a minority here but I think Electro is a huge part of HipHop nonetheless. Even though Kraftwerk are one of those praised for the initial spark the main style was created by the HipHop scene of the 70s and especially early 80s as a mixture of hip-hop, funk and NY boogie plus synth-pop influences like Gary Numan or Human League and such. With Africa Bambaataa or Warp 9 being the most famous producers of the early days imho. Later you have Run DMC, Dave Clarke, Aux 88 or Arthur Baker to just name a few.
I also like how this is a style of music that cannot be said to be either solely a black or white culture thing but it's an amalgamation of both cultures that influenced each other. Wish it'd be like this more often.
By brutzero Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:03 pm
mrmarbury wrote:I also like how this is a style of music that cannot be said to be either solely a black or white culture thing but it's an amalgamation of both cultures that influenced each other. Wish it'd be like this more often.


Well said.

If I could have re-done the X myself, I don't think there is that much I'd change, TBH. One thing I'd love is 16 big clicky Tr-Style step entry buttons where the useless arm rest is. An even more CVIO. Something as simple as a clock out/reset out and a couple CV ins would have been amazing.

For everyone who is disappointed in the XL so far, what would you have changed? I'm truly curious what you think is missing.
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By 8ty8 Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:25 pm
I agree, I think the X is pretty close to perfect as it stands from a hardware standpoint. I love the 16 Qlinks, the screen is fantastic (both in size and display output), I am happy with the 8 outs (I use em all), the usb ports, the MIDI connections... All of the buttons are very well placed and makes using the machine an absolute pleasure.

Yes a newer processor with more RAM would be very much appreciated, but coming from the OG MPCs, and experiencing first hand those limitation (as well as witnessing all of the magic that came out of those devices, despite their limitations) I am pretty happy with what's offered today.

IMO Akai needs to work on the software side -- put hella pressure on the Dev and QA teams to make the OS bug free, super optimized, and polished -- and I mean totally polished. No exceptions. Also give us guarantee that the X will be supported for at least another 10 years <-- this goodwill gesture would go a long way for them.

Then they can start adding shiny plug-in fluff and gimmicky new features for the youtube kiddies.

Set up your foundation first, then you build off of it.
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By Lampdog Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:55 pm
8ty8 wrote:.Yes a newer processor with more RAM would be very much appreciated, but coming from the OG MPCs, and experiencing first hand those limitation (as well as witnessing all of the magic that came out of those devices, despite their limitations) I am pretty happy with what's offered today.

Same here.

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By mrmarbury Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:38 pm
brutzero wrote:For everyone who is disappointed in the XL so far, what would you have changed? I'm truly curious what you think is missing.

I am mostly happy with the hardware as such. Except for 1 thing: wobbly imprecise screen - deleting individual notes is a freaking disaster. Even with a stylus. Number of I/O is fine for me. But double the amount of ins would be a bonus.

The rest is mostly software related. And here I have loads of gripes and I was hoping that with the new X they would at least introduce a new OS major version. One gripe is for example the way the MPC OS <-> MPC X function mapping is half-assed at best. You could map way more touchscreen functions to the existing hardware buttons. And then with the MPC SW that is so rudimentary that it really hurts my flow when I try to use it. Not to speak of non-existing VST3 support. This standard is from the 90s! Also the controller mode is so awesome yet the MPC SW is one of the worst DAWs that I have ever used.

An added bonus for me would be if the MPC OS would support 64 pad controllers. I often wish for the note and sequencer mode of the force/push. But that would be added sugar and is not deal breaking.
By jamos Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:32 am
BeatWilson wrote:If the screen had the re-enforcement of the old screens or fit with flat with the rest of the unit rather than poking out, I would a lot more confident with the hardware but.. it is what it is.


I am considering replacing my Live with an X, for obvious reasons. Sounds like that folding display may be the instrument's weak point. It can be operated when flush, correct?
By BeatWilson Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:39 am
it operates fine its just alittle rediculous with the kickstand thing they have behind it instead of the clicking ones in the old mpcs. Its the only thing that doesnt make it feel like it could fall down a set of stairs and survive. Not that I want that to happen it would just be nice if they were built with better materials.
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By 8ty8 Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:54 am
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BeatWilson wrote:If the screen had the re-enforcement of the old screens or fit with flat with the rest of the unit rather than poking out, I would a lot more confident with the hardware but.. it is what it is.


I am considering replacing my Live with an X, for obvious reasons. Sounds like that folding display may be the instrument's weak point. It can be operated when flush, correct?


Yes it can, but that other dude's complaint really makes no sense -- the screen has a metal support bracket that folds out from the back and locks into place. It's not like the screen is loosey-goosey flopping around, it literally clicks into place and then does not move. I have had absolutely no issues with it whatsoever, and i'm sure many others feel the same.
By B-Wise Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:26 am
8ty8 wrote:Yes it can, but that other dude's complaint really makes no sense -- the screen has a metal support bracket that folds out from the back and locks into place. It's not like the screen is loosey-goosey flopping around, it literally clicks into place and then does not move. I have had absolutely no issues with it whatsoever, and i'm sure many others feel the same.

Compared to the Force even a loosey-goosey tilt screen would be a blessing. Once you find a good way to position it, it's cool, but at the same time, not cool. Akai why you do us like that?