Official: MPC X 'Special Edition' Now Released

Stuff the 3.0 update predictions,it’s just hopes and wild claims from this community that’s expecting something that’s going to take their music to the next level,like some kind of saving grace.

I don’t get why so many feel like this newer MPC platform is somehow incomplete without this or that,and what’s with all these YouTuber people posting videos jumping on the bandwagon recently after a couple of oldskool MPC producers have slated Akai with these newer models saying they don’t crack like the old converters A/D D/A waffling on for 20+ minutes going over the same shit that if edited to whats the real point would take less than a minute all the while sitting there in their studio with a rack full of past MPCs in the background???whilst they still are using the newer generation series MPCs??!

if the sound isn’t the same stick with the MPC that does Bang!!!you’ve obviously been through every model yet only just come to the conclusion years later it doesn’t sound as good,sounds more like your pissed over the newer models and where they’ve evolved to than unsatisfied with its sound?

I’ve been using The 4K since 2002,haven’t used any other unit in that time other than the MV8800,but stuck to the 4K as I’ve grown up with it and I love the workflow and the sound,that’s why I stuck with it but certainly love the way this newer generation is going I wouldn’t say it’s better or worse than the 4K it just gives a workflow that’s sympathetic to the technology that’s of this generation and I Do like how it’s evolved,there are some tweaks here and there I would like to see but it’s not the end of the world if they don’t come and I can see myself having many hours of happy music making with it like I’ve had with the 4K but still keep the 4K when I want to work in the oldskool way I don’t feel like the Newer generation gives my sound any less fidelity out the box it depends on the limits of your production skills imo

For me this community should stop listening to all these individuals wild claims over where things are going,or hoping to go in their standards in order to gain views or popularity and just make music,embrace what is here in the newer MPCs and reconnect with the joy of making beats or whatever you use the MPCs for samplekings whilst seeems a genuine MPC guy but seems to try and be some kind of crystal ball guy with his wild claims that let’s be honest are just plucking shit out of the air based on already released products in order to look like he’s got some insider info,any of us could predict where the new hardware is evolving to!!!!!I wouldn’t trust him to tell me the time in a room full of clocks, stop listening to Chinese whispers and crack out some tunes instead of waiting for the 3.0 train that’s not even left the update station yet

I'm really tired of that too.. I'm tired of hearing that if I think the new mpc's sound pretty good it is because I'm just a hobbyist and don't know good sound like these guys that do this "for real". Then they make some horrible sounding boom bap beat using funk vocal samples a two year old could do and it still sounds horrible..
Like, get a life huh?

jpeg wrote:

brutzero wrote:This whole topic on internal FX is the most fan boy shit I have ever heard in my life.

"These FX suck on purpose, because they want you to tweak them" lol. I love the MPC platform, but cmon, the FX could be way better. The arturia FX collection for example sound fire from the jump. These FX leave A LOT to be desired.

agree these dudes was reaching; claiming that it was all part of some cunning market research by akai, to make the fx more complicated to get good sounds, is laughable.

I think those kinda claims stem from fanboism as u said; but also from ego, assome people like to complicate they production process to make it obscure and obtainaible (in their mind) as they feel that gives them some kind of elite secret knowledge or makes their work more accomplished, and valuable but truthfully nobody cares how complex or difficult it was to make a specific track.

I kinda agree but also akai do have a history of making the effects rather bland.. so I think it is a little of both. Remember that analog filter rack unit you could hook on your 2000xl? It was analog and still sounded very bland, even by the standard of those days.. I remember Peele wondering why it didn't really have much juice.. There effects have assists been very clinical sounding the 1000 sounded the same way.. I think they are starting to get the message though thankfully.

Uncle Dieppe wrote:Stuff the 3.0 update predictions,it’s just hopes and wild claims from this community that’s expecting something that’s going to take their music to the next level,like some kind of saving grace.

I don’t get why so many feel like this newer MPC platform is somehow incomplete without this or that,and what’s with all these YouTuber people posting videos jumping on the bandwagon recently after a couple of oldskool MPC producers have slated Akai with these newer models saying they don’t crack like the old converters A/D D/A waffling on for 20+ minutes going over the same shit that if edited to whats the real point would take less than a minute all the while sitting there in their studio with a rack full of past MPCs in the background???whilst they still are using the newer generation series MPCs??!

if the sound isn’t the same stick with the MPC that does Bang!!!you’ve obviously been through every model yet only just come to the conclusion years later it doesn’t sound as good,sounds more like your pissed over the newer models and where they’ve evolved to than unsatisfied with its sound?

I’ve been using The 4K since 2002,haven’t used any other unit in that time other than the MV8800,but stuck to the 4K as I’ve grown up with it and I love the workflow and the sound,that’s why I stuck with it but certainly love the way this newer generation is going I wouldn’t say it’s better or worse than the 4K it just gives a workflow that’s sympathetic to the technology that’s of this generation and I Do like how it’s evolved,there are some tweaks here and there I would like to see but it’s not the end of the world if they don’t come and I can see myself having many hours of happy music making with it like I’ve had with the 4K but still keep the 4K when I want to work in the oldskool way I don’t feel like the Newer generation gives my sound any less fidelity out the box it depends on the limits of your production skills imo

For me this community should stop listening to all these individuals wild claims over where things are going,or hoping to go in their standards in order to gain views or popularity and just make music,embrace what is here in the newer MPCs and reconnect with the joy of making beats or whatever you use the MPCs for samplekings whilst seeems a genuine MPC guy but seems to try and be some kind of crystal ball guy with his wild claims that let’s be honest are just plucking shit out of the air based on already released products in order to look like he’s got some insider info,any of us could predict where the new hardware is evolving to!!!!!I wouldn’t trust him to tell me the time in a room full of clocks, stop listening to Chinese whispers and crack out some tunes instead of waiting for the 3.0 train that’s not even left the update station yet

Word!

Koekepan wrote:Returning to the topic of the SE, I think that this may be a hint (along with the Keys) of a direction for the future: a continuation of the existing form factors, plus or minus a few details like button selections and I/O, but with beefed-up internals.

u made no points about the form factors what does SE have to do with form factors and the direction of future products? nothing that we did not already know there has always been flagship MPCs in th eX form factor so nothing new was learned from the SE. Unless ur missing using the term form factor and are instead refering to the teach spec? form factor denote the dhape of the device, but ur post spoke of the actual spec.

I literally, right there in front of everybody, referred to the continuation of the form factors as-is, plus or minus details, and with changed internals. The whole point is that I don't see them shifting from the One/Live/Keys/X structure because they have a little, cheap, slightly cut-down model for the low end market, a mid-range one for the portable market, a keyboardist's model with the keyboard and sounds, and a well-featured one for the high end studio market. What else could they add? An MPC XXX for better soundtracks on blue movies? I don't see them doing that. Although I would be sorely tempted - not that I'm suggesting anything if you know what I mean and I think you do.

For the brutzero and jpeg commentary on fanboyism: if I were to fawn over a manufacturer, the reanimated corpse of an old company that made its name in a genre that isn't really my scene wouldn't be it. (No disrespect to hiphop, but I spent a lot more time, when the MPC hit the streets, listening to Vangelis than I did to Grandmaster Flash.)

Seriously, if I want a crunchy delay, I can get one right now, without even leaving the room, from the Behringer Neutron, the KORG Volca Keys, and the Dreadbox ErebusV3. If I want fluffed-out reverb, I have that too, and I have a stack of multi-effects pedals that will give me various flavours of vintage broken experiences to taste. I'm not short of flavour. In some ways it's actually harder to get a really clean effect than it is a heavily tinted one. I learned my real sound design skills working in modular, and virtual modular systems. I know how to stack up what I want to get what I want, and I don't need Akai Pro (or anybody else) to hold my hand on that one, but a nice, clean set of reliable workhorses? Sign me up, and Akai Pro delivered. If you want crunch in your sounds, that's cool but delivering clean effects isn't a company doing a bad thing. Delivering a heavily tinted effect that you can't get away from is more crippling in that sense because now you have to jump through hoops to get a clean sound. Precrunching things is like having a preset that you can't replace. MPC Tutor could probably sell a guide on sound design in the MPC series, and how to get the sound that you crave. (Now that Akai Pro included the old school flavour effect layers, it's really not hard.)

Also, a tip of the hat to Lampdog. Love the Q-Links, and the OLED scribble strips just make them better.

MPC-Tutor wrote:I agree. I suspect MPC 'Software' 3 is just that, a future update purely for the MPC Software just to make it a better 'daw' rival, and to support the Force. akai don't need to release an MPC 3 firmware, they seem to be doing just fine with the current model of incremental updates and plugins for additional functionality.

One side of me would love to see them completely start again with fresh eyes rather than having a frankenstien's monster of a OS with all these bolt ons, half finished features, head scratching omissions etc, but imagine the pain, imagine the bugs

Agreed 100%, it's way beyond their capabilities. When you hear the stories about how things are going backstage at AKAI, it is a miracle this thing even works. Always better to see the glass half full and enjoy these machines for what they are, which is already very decent. But it is still a shame to think about what they could have been with competent management taking advantage of all the feedback.

Anyway, it is what it is right.

jpeg wrote:

bitermc wrote:Still, there is absolutely no proof that Inmusic is working on that common ground at all.

As far as we know, 3.0 is just pure speculation from us, the users.

so how do u explain the screenshot link from akai's website showing mpc 3 software in the product section?

I don't. I haven't seen that link.

Also, I don't give half a shit being wrong on an internet forum, so if there's a V3 coming... Welcome it be!!! I just don't see it coming

Peace!

bitermc wrote:
I don't. I haven't seen that link.

Also, I don't give half a shit being wrong on an internet forum, so if there's a V3 coming... Welcome it be!!! I just don't see it coming

Peace!

At this point ANYTHING regarding 3.0 is pulled straight out of someones ass. No one here is privy to ANY insider info from Akai, and anyone that MIGHT be, signed an NDA. Even the beta testers have NO info on 3.0.

Nobody here knows shit regardless of how much they think they do or what they read on the internet. Quit taking YouTube influencers word as gospel and you might actually not spend half your life disappointed and just get on with it..

jpeg wrote:

brutzero wrote:This whole topic on internal FX is the most fan boy shit I have ever heard in my life.

"These FX suck on purpose, because they want you to tweak them" lol. I love the MPC platform, but cmon, the FX could be way better. The arturia FX collection for example sound fire from the jump. These FX leave A LOT to be desired.

agree these dudes was reaching; claiming that it was all part of some cunning market research by akai, to make the fx more complicated to get good sounds, is laughable.

I think those kinda claims stem from fanboism as u said; but also from ego, assome people like to complicate they production process to make it obscure and obtainaible (in their mind) as they feel that gives them some kind of elite secret knowledge or makes their work more accomplished, and valuable but truthfully nobody cares how complex or difficult it was to make a specific track.

I don't get it at all.. you guys are wining over efx .. if you don't like them then your your MPC in controller mode and buy some plugins.. stop the complaining

Certified Beatz wrote:I don't get it at all.. you guys are wining over efx .. if you don't like them then your your MPC in controller mode and buy some plugins.. stop the complaining

I paid like $1200 for the Live, I didn't spend that much to use it as a fancy controller with some shitty DAW software. My sampler software runs circles around the MPC's, why would I even go with MPC Software at that point when I've got Cubase and Halion (and TAL Sampler, and Pigments, and Logic Sampler, etc)? Might as well have just bought a couple Behringer X-Touches and went that route instead.

Monotremata wrote:Might as well have just bought a couple Behringer X-Touches and went that route instead.

Why didn’t you? Can always sell your Live and get those X-Touches

mrmarbury wrote:

Monotremata wrote:Might as well have just bought a couple Behringer X-Touches and went that route instead.

Why didn’t you? Can always sell your Live and get those X-Touches

You can read right? Did you miss Akai's whole marketing about this being a STANDALONE device??
Pretty sure that's the same reason people have been buying MPC's since 1986..

If I wanted a software controller I would've gone that route, its not really that hard to comprehend.

I'm holding out for the Behringer XXX-Touch.

You have to show proof of age to buy it, and it's illegal in Alabama, Arkansas and Utah.

Monotremata wrote:
Nobody here knows shit regardless of how much they think they do or what they read on the internet. Quit taking YouTube influencers word as gospel and you might actually not spend half your life disappointed and just get on with it..

this right here!!!!