Koekepan wrote:Koekepan wrote:Returning to the topic of the SE, I think that this may be a hint (along with the Keys) of a direction for the future: a continuation of the existing form factors, plus or minus a few details like button selections and I/O, but with beefed-up internals.
u made no points about the form factors what does SE have to do with form factors and the direction of future products? nothing that we did not already know there has always been flagship MPCs in th eX form factor so nothing new was learned from the SE. Unless ur missing using the term form factor and are instead refering to the teach spec? form factor denote the dhape of the device, but ur post spoke of the actual spec.
I literally, right there in front of everybody, referred to the continuation of the form factors as-is, plus or minus details, and with changed internals. The whole point is that I don't see them shifting from the One/Live/Keys/X structure because they have a little, cheap, slightly cut-down model for the low end market, a mid-range one for the portable market, a keyboardist's model with the keyboard and sounds, and a well-featured one for the high end studio market. What else could they add? An MPC XXX for better soundtracks on blue movies? I don't see them doing that. Although I would be sorely tempted - not that I'm suggesting anything if you know what I mean and I think you do.
For the brutzero and jpeg commentary on fanboyism: if I were to fawn over a manufacturer, the reanimated corpse of an old company that made its name in a genre that isn't really my scene wouldn't be it. (No disrespect to hiphop, but I spent a lot more time, when the MPC hit the streets, listening to Vangelis than I did to Grandmaster Flash.)
Seriously, if I want a crunchy delay, I can get one right now, without even leaving the room, from the Behringer Neutron, the KORG Volca Keys, and the Dreadbox ErebusV3. If I want fluffed-out reverb, I have that too, and I have a stack of multi-effects pedals that will give me various flavours of vintage broken experiences to taste. I'm not short of flavour. In some ways it's actually harder to get a really clean effect than it is a heavily tinted one. I learned my real sound design skills working in modular, and virtual modular systems. I know how to stack up what I want to get what I want, and I don't need Akai Pro (or anybody else) to hold my hand on that one, but a nice, clean set of reliable workhorses? Sign me up, and Akai Pro delivered. If you want crunch in your sounds, that's cool but delivering clean effects isn't a company doing a bad thing. Delivering a heavily tinted effect that you can't get away from is more crippling in that sense because now you have to jump through hoops to get a clean sound. Precrunching things is like having a preset that you can't replace. MPC Tutor could probably sell a guide on sound design in the MPC series, and how to get the sound that you crave. (Now that Akai Pro included the old school flavour effect layers, it's really not hard.)
Also, a tip of the hat to Lampdog. Love the Q-Links, and the OLED scribble strips just make them better.
"a continuation of the existing form factors, plus or minus a few details like button selections and I/O, but with beefed-up internals."
He miss your point like Shaq at the free throw-line.
I agreed with the rest of your reply about the FX. Akia FXs never been anything to write home about.
This message isn't for you Koe, except for the last word of this paragraph:
Saying an FX is bland isn't the same as it being crappy. It's not fanboyism to not want the built-in FXs to have much of the companies unique sound baked into them. A fanboy of a company would want more of the unique sound of that company. It being difficult to use these FXs creatively because they are flavorless is your problem & that's cool since you unique creative needs & but everyone don't shares the your view & that's OK. But taking someone's opinion without truly consideringthe point they was making & reduce it to fanboyism isn't cool, but do you if that's ya thang
But like I said, it's all about perspective & seeing things from different angles & having the wisdom to pick or even better shape a constructive mindset that'll work best for the current situation. This isn't easy. It's easier to see things only from your initial perspective & run with that limited opinion no matter what - for better or for worse. That's why you have to remember that you can change your mind by changing your perspective.
The things I've seen try to find this pic.
