Akai Force Forum: Everything relating to the Akai Force, the iconic 64 pad, clip-based standalone sampler/groovebox from Akai.
By Tom Beast Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:23 am
Greetings from Croatia. :worthy:

Also apologies to the moderators, yesterday I mistakenly sent a post to the wrong subforum (MPC sub).

In short - I'm an amateur EDM music producer and this is the setup I want in the studio and would use for live gigs. So in the future I don't want to be a classic "CDJ+DJM" dj, but I would perform live music (techno/trance).

Also with Force, I will direct connect to mixer my drum machine (MIDI keyboard will be connected to Force).

Exactly like this:

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An item currently unknown to me is an analog mixer with multi-track USB routing, and I found these three. I'm not sure about the Yamaha, but it's the cheapest, if it's not that bad - I'd take that too (to start with).

Yamaha MG16XU
Tascam Model 16
Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK

For Tascam models, I saw on youtube that people normally use the Force without any problems, but I want to hear your opinions and recommendations.
I don't want an audio interface+classic mixer because it's much more expensive for me - I would literally control the output channels from the Force via an analog mixer and a USB connection, add effects from the mixer, etc.

Thanks everyone! :-D
By robleighton22 Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:07 am
Had the Sound craft 12 MTK and now have a Model 12. sadly my Soundcraft MTK power died, which is why I replaced it with the Tascam. The analog EQs were nice, FX weren't too bad either, only complaint was the USB was pre eqs/fadar, which defeated the point for me.

The Model 12 is all digital, but can do post compressor/EQ via USB, allowing u to use the mixer. The Model series got an update recently that fixed one of its worse shortcomings that was having to allocate the PC output to a channel rather than the master my mixer output. This has been solved now, so you can choose, and honestly really makes the Model series a lot more usable with USB setups than before, as I know longer have to waste an analog input on my PC main mix. However only the Model 12 allows you to mix post compresspr/EQ, so the Model 16+ is quite comparable to the MTK as well. The Model 12 is also quite compact but the Model 16 is quite a bit bigger.

Overall I'd say the Tascams are better featured than the Soundcraft as they are still updating features, plus SD recording is obviously a big part of it. Although I have heard that they have their own power related failures. I'm hoping I can one day fix my Soundcraft MTK power, which is a brick atm.
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By Lampdog Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:28 am
robleighton22 wrote:… Sound craft 12 MTK …… only complaint was the USB was pre eqs/fadar, which defeated the point for me..

I heard this same thing from a good friend too.
He went with Model 12 and is happy now.
By Tom Beast Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:37 am
Tnx for answers!

While reading this, I did a little googling about MTK models and power supplies. Yes, I see that people massively have problems with the power supply that can stop working even after 1-2 years of use.
I just don't understand why many sites advertise MTK models as the top choice for multi-track recording.
My basic plan for live performances is for the mixer to go with me, as well as all the equipment packed in a music case.

So there's no way I'll be picking up SoundCraft.

I got excited on Tascam 16, when I read that the faders are post eq - I stop to read anymore. :lol:

That means Model 12 is good, which is missing at least 1 additional channel for my usage.
I had a plan that my Akai would be connected to exactly 8 channels, and additionally that I would have 1-2 channels free.

Is it possible to route Akai 2 or 3,4 rows (roughly speaking) go to the same usb routing?
So that I get 1 channel free for the rhythm machine?

I'll do some more searching around Mackie Onyx series and Presonus studiolive, I can't find anything smart anymore
By Tom Beast Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:51 pm
robleighton22 wrote: However only the Model 12 allows you to mix post compresspr/EQ, so the Model 16+ is quite comparable to the MTK as well. The Model 12 is also quite compact but the Model 16 is quite a bit bigger.

Overall I'd say the Tascams are better featured than the Soundcraft as they are still updating features, plus SD recording is obviously a big part of it. Although I have heard that they have their own power related failures. I'm hoping I can one day fix my Soundcraft MTK power, which is a brick atm.


Hi,

look at this.

https://www.tascamforums.com/threads/pr ... rack.7975/

It look like comp is recorder, only EQ and FX are not recorded.
But this is correct method in analog mixer. Lets say that you record 8 tracks for band, and you apply wrong EQ.
You cant fix that later.

So at the end - maybe I will choose Model 16. First - its analogue, and I want that "warm" sound.

Just need to see how stable is usb interface when is connected to akai or mac laptop.