Key 61 with heavy discount on Thomann Germany

They list it for 1198€ which is including taxes in G. That’s more than 50% off

https://www.thomann.de/de/akai_professi ... key_61.htm

LOL, B-stock is 300€ more expensive.

It's cheaper than buying the One+ with all the plugins, I think...

bitermc wrote:
It's cheaper than buying the One+ with all the plugins, I think...

Probably. Cheapest I saw the one+ was 729€ from a polish shop which ships to Germany for free a couple of days ago. Now it’s 789€ most of the time. Man I am in the market for a one+ to take on the road. The key 61 would be a bit bulky to set up on the train

bitermc wrote:LOL, B-stock is 300€ more expensive.

It's cheaper than buying the One+ with all the plugins, I think...

Do the plugins stay in the account to download on other mpcs when I return this thing?
But it doesnt come with Mini D and juno anyway, does it?

Lampdog wrote:Purchased plugins are tied to the machines registered serial number.

To add on to this. So even if you sell your device, you keep the plugs tied to your account & the new buy has to buy their own. Unless you give them your account info or whatever.

Alot love it I just couldn't justify it with the legacy X I own.. the touch screen didn't have an adjustable screen why please

B-Wise wrote:To add on to this. So even if you sell your device, you keep the plugs tied to your account & the new buy has to buy their own. Unless you give them your account info or whatever.

I don't think it works like that. When the new owner registers the hardware (with serial) then I believe they'll get their plugin licenses added to their account. At this point, in theory, the previous owner will lose those licenses (if they remain offline I suppose their MPC will never know this though).

I mean, this is in theory. I previously sold an MPC Ren and that Ren is still active in my account despite the new owner definitely re-registering. But that was on the old licensing system.

MPC-Tutor wrote:

B-Wise wrote:To add on to this. So even if you sell your device, you keep the plugs tied to your account & the new buy has to buy their own. Unless you give them your account info or whatever.

I don't think it works like that. When the new owner registers the hardware (with serial) then I believe they'll get their plugin licenses added to their account. At this point, in theory, the previous owner will lose those licenses (if they remain offline I suppose their MPC will never know this though).

I mean, this is in theory. I previously sold an MPC Ren and that Ren is still active in my account despite the new owner definitely re-registering. But that was on the old licensing system.

I thought if you paid for the plugs they get added to your account. So even if you unregistered the sn# from a device the plugs should remain in your account to be reused on the later on another device.

B-Wise wrote:I thought if you paid for the plugs they get added to your account. So even if you unregistered the sn# from a device the plugs should remain in your account to be reused on the later on another device.

I thought we were talking about the plugin licences included with an MPC Key? With that you don't actually buy the licenses, they are included with and tied to the hardware. If you sell the hardware, I assume you lose the plugins completely.

MPC-Tutor wrote:

B-Wise wrote:I thought if you paid for the plugs they get added to your account. So even if you unregistered the sn# from a device the plugs should remain in your account to be reused on the later on another device.

I thought we were talking about the plugin licences included with an MPC Key? With that you don't actually buy the licenses, they are included with and tied to the hardware. If you sell the hardware, I assume you lose the plugins completely.

Oh in that case I don't know, but there should be someway to keep/transfer those included plugins.