dunkeyman wrote:HouseWithoutMouse wrote:dunkeyman: Try it yourself, take a hip-hop tune and cut away one beat from each bar, for example the second one, so your 1234 becomes 134. Kick-Snare-Kick-Snare becomes Kick-Kick-Snare. Great beat IMO!
With stem separation this can be done quite cleany. Because stems are on separate tracks, the cut points don't have to be the same on every track, so you can re-flow the vocals over the new 3/4 beat.
It can work, I just meant it makes it sort of impossible to dance or head bob to in the traditional sense. Like the Eminem song with the odd time signature, he chose it because he wanted a military-sounding vibe to it. Kind of like certain time signatures are for waltzing.
It most certainly works. Whether people are creative enough, or record labels feel that it is "worth" taking a chance is a whole different story. Just because you haven't heard such music, does not mean it cannot be made suitable for what you suggested.
People "presume" waltzing when 3/4-time is mentioned, simply because that is what it's generally called and traditionally often used for that purpose. There are lots of odd time signatures that people do not presume anything at all about, simple because there is no such tradition with them. In the same way, there are well known songs, that happens to be in all kinds of odd time signatures, but that people would not think is the case. For example, if I were to say, "We are the champions, by Queen", 3/4-time is not what many would think. It may not sound like a 4/4, but it also does not sound like a waltz.
It's because the music industry has washed the market for so long, that 4/4 is the de facto standard. I am not claiming that it would have been different if it was not so, but it is a fact that it is. That also does not remove the need for creative tools. Without such tools, the music people will be listening more and more to re-generated 4/4 music.
There is a reason why, if you follow music back, there was more creativity with things like T/S, tempo, etc. than today. What I mean is, the amount of music being pumped out today compared to the past is way more, but variation is also proportionally way less.
This is why I like experiments with these properties in ANY music genre. I would like to have as much musical capability as possible in the tools I am using. You may think differently.
