MPC Stems - Coming Soon

It's ok to wait for the movie. But if you're interested in trying it out right away, there are free services like this https://vocalremover.org/splitter-ai
You select your audio file to upload, wait a minute for the processing, and then you get to download the stem tracks as WAV and MP3. You get one free stem-splitting per day, so choose your example tune wisely.

jpeg wrote:

hyena wrote:
perhaps for SOME sample heads, maybe even the majority of sample heads. not ALL sample heads tho. its a really useful feature that still not everyone wants for a plethora of reasons.

again, if u dont want it dont use it;

but why are u dubious about the feature being available to those that want it?

very odd mindset its as if ur saying "i dont like this feature, so I dont want anyone to have this feature"

very haterish imo

man dont put words in my mouth, i never said i dont want you to have it, i replied to your assumptions that all sample heads will love that feature, very different thing.

hyena wrote:
man dont put words in my mouth, i never said i dont want you to have it, i replied to your assumptions that all sample heads will love that feature, very different thing.

no saying that u said that directly; but the energy u have towards stems gives off the vibe that u dont want that feature in mpc.

my point is whats not to like about stems? not every feature has to be used by every person, so there is no reason to have the disdain towards stems.

I'm still wait on his reasons why some wouldn't want it in the MPC. Please let it be more original than: Back in the we didn't it, so we had to... Or, something about the purity of sampling, or it takes away the challenge, or...BYE!

B-Wise wrote:I'm still wait on his reasons why some wouldn't want it in the MPC. Please let it be more original than: Back in the we didn't it, so we had to... Or, something about the purity of sampling, or it takes away the challenge, or...BYE!

i get that it can be seen as cheating cos now we can go get dre drums directly from his records; we can go get access to anyone sounds and use them in our beats so it could def be seen as cheating or less creative but its down to the individual producer to do something creative with it, but will there be nuff copycats who just use the sounds from everyones records yes

LOl.. where have I heard this before? Oh yeah - literally every music critic and newspaper back in the 80's lamented that sampling was "cheating". This went well on into the early 90's before it was finally accepted as mainstream "art" (copyright/licensing aside).

Stems are literally no different. These youngsters are adorable.

EnochLight wrote:LOl.. where have I heard this before? Oh yeah - literally every music critic and newspaper back in the 80's lamented that sampling was "cheating". This went well on into the early 90's before it was finally accepted as mainstream "art" (copyright/licensing aside).

Stems are literally no different. These youngsters are adorable.

difference now u can sample other peoples samples; like i can go to pete rock soul survior album and get stems from shit he sampled already,etc like i like petes bass sounds; so i can jack his bass sounds or his drums or the sample he used and flip the sample that he sampled directly off his record.

That's not really "a difference". That's the evolution of technology, and the implications are no different than if you sampled an entire section of a song from pete rock's soul survivor album. You should still have the sample cleared and licensed if you plan on using it commercially.

The same should happen when you stem out someone's work and use it in your own. Note, the key word here is *should*. Whether people do or do not is as old as the art of sampling. Process it enough so that it is unrecognizable, then you're not paying to license sh@t.

EnochLight wrote:That's not really "a difference". That's the evolution of technology, and the implications are no different than if you sampled an entire section of a song from pete rock's soul survivor album. You should still have the sample cleared and licensed if you plan on using it commercially.

The same should happen when you stem out someone's work and use it in your own. Note, the key word here is *should*. Whether people do or do not is as old as the art of sampling. Process it enough so that it is unrecognizable, then you're not paying to license sh@t.

its a big difference cos part of the production sound is how u eq and mix ur drum and how u layers ur drums; but now people can access to those mixed and master sounds off other peoples sampled records; the producers code was not to sample another producers record and jack his sounds but now that all goes out the window.

technology always has a profound impact on music

Not a big difference at all when talking about the implications of licensing and fair use. And obviously technology moves forward - no one is saying otherwise. It's not like stems are something new - we've had access to this technology for well over 5 years. You're acting like this is something revolutionary. To be clear, we are discussing stems as "cheating" versus sampling as "cheating".

jpeg wrote:difference now u can sample other peoples samples; like i can go to pete rock soul survior album and get stems from shit he sampled already,etc like i like petes bass sounds; so i can jack his bass sounds or his drums or the sample he used and flip the sample that he sampled directly off his record.

Sorry, but I hate this whole idea. So would Pete rock.

I’ve used stems in the past. The problem I see is that it’s degrading the audio in an unpleasant way. Individual stems may sound dull and lifeless, and artifacts added are chaotic and not sonically harmonic (like eg SP ring).
But I obviously see the potential and love that it’s already in Serato Sample and Koala sampler.
It will enable some cool stuff, but will also lead to myriads of wack ass tracks with obvious stem separation artifacts…

johnnytravels wrote:It will enable some cool stuff, but will also lead to myriads of wack ass tracks with obvious stem separation artifacts…

I agree, bass and drums especially lose a lot of the original character and depth when processed through all of the stem /spectral software I've ever used, making it unusable IMO, no matter how isolated you've managed to get it. what's the point of extracting the drums from an old vinyl song if it doesn't actually retain all the warm vibes and 'loveliness'?

I'm not saying you are not going to get some useful gems out of this tech, but yes, there's definitely a 'sound' to a lot of this stuff, and it's not particularly desirable.

jaymack wrote:

jpeg wrote:difference now u can sample other peoples samples; like i can go to pete rock soul survior album and get stems from shit he sampled already,etc like i like petes bass sounds; so i can jack his bass sounds or his drums or the sample he used and flip the sample that he sampled directly off his record.

Sorry, but I hate this whole idea. So would Pete rock.

yeah most golden age producers dont like this idea; but its gonna happen and its more quickly available having stems in the box.

i kind of dont like it eithe;r but i will prolly grab couple of kev brown and pete rock basslines and chop them up and might grab some dre drum also, lol

You can get pretty good quality drums from stems. I think a lot here are underestimating the level to which stem technology is already being used in the industry. It’s a pretty common practice at this point, in my experience