Mpc stems out now

renegadebliss wrote:MPC Standalone has enough Ram to do this..
and probably has enough CPU to do it as well.. as long as you have some time...

I think anything more then 1 minute to stem is too long; but since the CPU is a quad-core ARM Cortex A17 , and can run between 1.25 GHz to 2.75 GHz, surely that should be good enuff to do stems of 30 seconds or less in good time.

Unable To Initialize Stems

Is anyone out there with a solution for that ?

jpeg wrote:

renegadebliss wrote:MPC Standalone has enough Ram to do this..
and probably has enough CPU to do it as well.. as long as you have some time...

I think anything more then 1 minute to stem is too long; but since the CPU is a quad-core ARM Cortex A17 , and can run between 1.25 GHz to 2.75 GHz, surely that should be good enuff to do stems of 30 seconds or less in good time.

while iagree as far as filter times.. my quest have you tried ripX? Yes it does a deeper separation which to me is over kill but it takes up to 5 mins per sample... stems is a nice addition bout it the first day of release..

Certified Beatz wrote:
Well while agree as far as filter times.. my quest have you tried ripX? Yes it does a deeper separation which to me is over kill but it takes up to 5 mins per sample... stems is a nice addition bout it the first day of release..

I have ripx but have not really got into it; i found it a bit confusing

but i like how the waveforms show up in that spectral analysis type format; and how u can change the notes of the different stem melodies; altho sometimes it dont sound right when shifting notes.

i hope they update the waveform display in 3.0 or give us software display skins, i think a dark mode would look cool, with an updated waveform more similar to serrato stems display.

actually i need to have a play with the serrato stems also; but ultimately the convenince of having stems in da box as per mpc is always the preference imo.

renegadebliss wrote:

40Beatz wrote:Just got the Email from Akai....basically saying (IMO) Stem it out in Controller Mode, then save it to Standalone. That's what it is huh man. I kinda figured that the Standalone Hardware can't handle that Processing Power.

You don't think they already had it running on their own standalone's before they even made that announcement that it was coming to standalone later?

Chill.. it will come out. You might want to learn to chill.. for when it DOES make it to standalone as you'll be waiting on that processor

Lol...I'm pretty relaxed. Its not an urgency situation, for them to drop A Standalone Stems Version. As far as them having it running on Standalone prior to release....I'm pretty they did have it running....Not Very Well...But they had it running on there.
I believe there's too much Bloat that needs to be shifted around, in the Current hardware.

Stems is Not That Serious

40Beatz wrote:Stems is Not That Serious

You're clearly ignorant because anyone with a fragment of common sense knows that having the ability to stem out your samples is a matter of life and death.

richie wrote:

40Beatz wrote:Stems is Not That Serious

You're clearly ignorant because anyone with a fragment of common sense knows that having the ability to stem out your samples is a matter of life and death.

Right

jpeg wrote:

Certified Beatz wrote:
Well while agree as far as filter times.. my quest have you tried ripX? Yes it does a deeper separation which to me is over kill but it takes up to 5 mins per sample... stems is a nice addition bout it the first day of release..

I have ripx but have not really got into it; i found it a bit confusing

but i like how the waveforms show up in that spectral analysis type format; and how u can change the notes of the different stem melodies; altho sometimes it dont sound right when shifting notes.

i hope they update the waveform display in 3.0 or give us software display skins, i think a dark mode would look cool, with an updated waveform more similar to serrato stems display.

actually i need to have a play with the serrato stems also; but ultimately the convenince of having stems in da box as per mpc is always the preference imo.

Serrato stems are pretty dang good. And the workflow and implementation is way better than MPC stems

J.O.BEATS wrote:

jpeg wrote:

I have ripx but have not really got into it; i found it a bit confusing

but i like how the waveforms show up in that spectral analysis type format; and how u can change the notes of the different stem melodies; altho sometimes it dont sound right when shifting notes.

i hope they update the waveform display in 3.0 or give us software display skins, i think a dark mode would look cool, with an updated waveform more similar to serrato stems display.

actually i need to have a play with the serrato stems also; but ultimately the convenince of having stems in da box as per mpc is always the preference imo.

Serrato stems are pretty dang good. And the workflow and implementation is way better than MPC stems

Serrato stems is good I used it a few times but im not sold on another plugin for what I can do in my mpc x.. once in standalone is released we will all be happy we'll not those that can't wait a minute or two
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B-Wise wrote:This is not the type of feature a company like at this level would just gaslight their customers with, especially MPC users.

yeah, that would be on the level of saying that the mpc renaissance has the same circuitry as the mpc 3000, and vintage mode was an analog effect done in the hardware.

It makes no sense why people are talking about still wanting to pay $10 for it when there are way better and free methods for stemming out in high quality.

The only rational reason I can think of is that some want to do it all on their MPC directly, instead of the mindbending task of dragging and dropping a .wav file over to the MPC.

mr_debauch wrote:

B-Wise wrote:This is not the type of feature a company like at this level would just gaslight their customers with, especially MPC users.

yeah, that would be on the level of saying that the mpc renaissance has the same circuitry as the mpc 3000, and vintage mode was an analog effect done in the hardware.

I don't remember any of those two things having the same level of hype & interest or importance as stems. But I wasn't really following the MPC at time after I took a break from it in 2014 when I got the RS7K & got more into photography & videos. Didn't get into the Akai world until 2021. So maybe I missed that hype train for those features.

Also, based on the MPC X vs 3k sound test done by the YouTuber Tonelab the the 3k vintage FX was pretty accurate, the SP FX was way off in the other test. I think over the years people overhyped the sound quality of the 3k & we're disappointed by the reality more than anything. I posted the test last year but you can easily find & judge for yourself.

B-Wise wrote:I think over the years people overhyped the sound quality of the 3k & we're disappointed by the reality more than anything. I posted the test last year but you can easily find & judge for yourself.

I agree. In my opinion, the "magic" of the 3000 is the timing of the sequencer, not the sampler itself although some people I've discussed this with end up getting triggered.

Not to derail the discussion but Ensoniq samplers have always sounded better than Akai stuff. I'm only basing this on the fact that I own a decent amount of said samplers to attest to this.

richie wrote:It makes no sense why people are talking about still wanting to pay $10 for it when there are way better and free methods for stemming out in high quality.

The only rational reason I can think of is that some want to do it all on their MPC directly, instead of the mindbending task of dragging and dropping a .wav file over to the MPC.

its cos peeps want stems standalone all in da box; controller mode is just a stop off, most of us never used controller mode at all

alos those free high quality ones i hear take bout 5 mins people wanna move quickly

it isnt about what sounds better than what, it's about how at NAMM, akai employees were telling namm attendees that the ren controller had the 3000 mode button and the same circuitry as the mpc 3000 and how the effect you were hearing was all being done due to that circuitry in the hardware..... at that time there was no visible vintage mode pluggin. when you launched the effect, it would remain hidden as to keep the secret that it was a static preset of their bit reduction pluggin. the point of bringing that up is to show how it's naive to assume akai would be dishonest, let alone towards MPC users as you suggest..... they have been doing this to MPC users ever since inmusic has owned akai.

Dont get me wrong, the new gen of MPCs since the OG live and X is a total turnaround for akai IMO... they were bastards in the era of the 5000. that being said, dont forget about their track record... it isn't pretty.