Mpc stems out now

richie wrote:

B-Wise wrote:I think over the years people overhyped the sound quality of the 3k & we're disappointed by the reality more than anything. I posted the test last year but you can easily find & judge for yourself.

I agree. In my opinion, the "magic" of the 3000 is the timing of the sequencer, not the sampler itself although some people I've discussed this with end up getting triggered.

Not to derail the discussion but Ensoniq samplers have always sounded better than Akai stuff. I'm only basing this on the fact that I own a decent amount of said samplers to attest to this.

mr_debauch wrote:it isnt about what sounds better than what, it's about how at NAMM, akai employees were telling namm attendees that the ren controller had the 3000 mode button and the same circuitry as the mpc 3000 and how the effect you were hearing was all being done due to that circuitry in the hardware..... at that time there was no visible vintage mode pluggin. when you launched the effect, it would remain hidden as to keep the secret that it was a static preset of their bit reduction pluggin. the point of bringing that up is to show how it's naive to assume akai would be dishonest, let alone towards MPC users as you suggest..... they have been doing this to MPC users ever since inmusic has owned akai.

Dont get me wrong, the new gen of MPCs since the OG live and X is a total turnaround for akai IMO... they were bastards in the era of the 5000. that being said, dont forget about their track record... it isn't pretty.

richie wrote:Ensoniq samplers have always sounded better than Akai stuff.

Lampdog wrote:

richie wrote:Ensoniq samplers have always sounded better than Akai stuff.

+1

A certain sound I get from ASR-10 than MPC X, Key61, 4000 doesn't give me right off the beats using samples that were sampled in.

No filters, no envelopes, no eq, no nothing, default, ASR-10 just sounded better to me.

jpeg wrote:
its cos peeps want stems standalone all in da box; controller mode is just a stop off, most of us never used controller mode at all

alos those free high quality ones i hear take bout 5 mins people wanna move quickly

B-Wise wrote:What sounds better the ASR-10 or ASR-X?

Lampdog wrote:

B-Wise wrote:What sounds better the ASR-10 or ASR-X?

Both had that same sound..

I was talking about mpc x earlier.

I did, however have an ASR X PRO (red) prior to ever having any mpc.
had it for about 2 yrs, loved it, bought a classic grey 2kxl and sold the ASR X PRO.
only because the 2kxl was so much easier to deal with. ASR X Pro sounded MUCH better
Had built in efx, same as kybd asr-10, a much stronger sample engine, more features, BUT, the pads were hard plastic which killed my beatmaking passion and the 2 knobs was NOT the business. I wanted a drum machine, not an ecth-a-sketch. Got the 2kxl and never looked back. Sold that and got the orange 2kxlse2 which has THEE best feeling pads of all mpc’s imo.

mr_debauch wrote:

B-Wise wrote:This is not the type of feature a company like at this level would just gaslight their customers with, especially MPC users.

yeah, that would be on the level of saying that the mpc renaissance has the same circuitry as the mpc 3000, and vintage mode was an analog effect done in the hardware.

MPC-Tutor wrote:I'm sure Akai have every good intention of releasing this on standalone, I assume it's ultimately centred around dealing with the extremely long processing times. Perhaps the suits are wanting the developers to 'nerd harder' and come up with some kind of magical low-cpu solution that retains sound quality. Or maybe they are trying to work out how to convince customers to accept a strict sample length limit in standalone.

40Beatz wrote:My Suggestion to Akai would be to Limit the Original Sample File To Be Stemmed Out (Standalone)...Should be..Ummm...20secs or so. That would reduce Processing Time!

Bcz most of us Stem Users are snatching Small portions of a Stemmed Out Sample anyway. If you want to Stem Out a WHOLE SONG.... Do it in Controller Mode!

B-Wise wrote:I think giving the user stem quality options would be better than a set time limit for standalone. Not everyone's in a rush.