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By richie Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:30 pm
A few of the main plants everyone uses in the states offer drop shipping for a small fee per unit, no need to order all the vinyl to your place and handle the shipping on your own.
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By BKLYN Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:36 pm
richie wrote:A few of the main plants everyone uses in the states offer drop shipping for a small fee per unit, no need to order all the vinyl to your place and handle the shipping on your own.


New Press Vinyl has an excellent reputation, and I decided to go with them to press my new label's forthcoming album releases. https://www.newpressvinyl.com/

I'm specifically looking for in-store distribution to independent mom-and-pop stores, not the corporate machines that are Starbucks, Barnes & Noble, Target, etc.

As a serious independent label owner, I aim to build a solid relationship with our artists' supporters by providing the highest-quality music experience and preventing the corporate devil from benefiting from our art as much as possible.

Our primary business model is based on direct-to-consumer sales. I will do the shipping myself, as I'm thankfully not a lazy person with an explosive amount of God-Tier energy.

My wife and I also own a modest temperature-controlled garage with more than enough free space, and I will be adding a few freebies such as stickers, magnets, postcards, pins, etc.
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By richie Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:36 pm
BKLYN wrote:New Press Vinyl has an excellent reputation, and I decided to go with them to press my new label's forthcoming album releases. https://www.newpressvinyl.com/

I'm specifically looking for in-store distribution to independent mom-and-pop stores, not the corporate machines that are Starbucks, Barnes & Noble, Target, etc.

As a serious independent label owner, I aim to build a solid relationship with our artists' supporters by providing the highest-quality music experience and preventing the corporate devil from benefiting from our art as much as possible.

Our primary business model is based on direct-to-consumer sales. I will do the shipping myself, as I'm thankfully not a lazy person with an explosive amount of God-Tier energy.

My wife and I also own a modest temperature-controlled garage with more than enough free space, and I will be adding a few freebies such as stickers, magnets, postcards, pins, etc.


It's not about lazy, it's about working smart. Some people are fortunate enough to work this out early, many of us learn on the job through trial and error.

With respect, from reading what you wrote - it comes off as a romanticized labor of love sort of goal you have which is nice and all but not quite realistic from the business side of things.

I have a considerable amount of experience and have worked and still work with those that push large amounts of vinyl / cd / tapes on a continuous basis, so I'm not talking out of turn with the time I'm sharing here with you.

I strongly suggest you reconsider and advantage of what other services that pressing plants may have available to you. There is no benefit to hand shipping each piece of vinyl, at a higher shipping rate than what clients with bulk shipping rates have available. The customer does not know the difference. All they care about is to get their vinyl quick and undamaged.

For smaller more exclusive vinyl, say - a test press or a signed release, lower press amounts, they sell at an inflated rate so you'd be better suited with shipping those by hand, even if a less beneficial shipping rate is available for you to utilize.

I suggest not involving your wife into this new venture unless your goal is to be tired and never get laid ever again. Unless your wife wants to make a picture for you in photoshop to use as a cover, leave her alone and keep work separate.

Perhaps be open to changing your opinion of this whole "corporate devil" talk, it makes you sound weird. The goal is to have your vinyl in hands of customers, not make it a maze of difficulty to purchase just to feel like you're keeping it grass roots. You'd be so fortunate to even have access to have your vinyl in corporate owned locations.

At the end of the day, good luck to you and I hope it all works out.
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By BKLYN Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:45 am
richie wrote:
BKLYN wrote:New Press Vinyl has an excellent reputation, and I decided to go with them to press my new label's forthcoming album releases. https://www.newpressvinyl.com/

I'm specifically looking for in-store distribution to independent mom-and-pop stores, not the corporate machines that are Starbucks, Barnes & Noble, Target, etc.

As a serious independent label owner, I aim to build a solid relationship with our artists' supporters by providing the highest-quality music experience and preventing the corporate devil from benefiting from our art as much as possible.

Our primary business model is based on direct-to-consumer sales. I will do the shipping myself, as I'm thankfully not a lazy person with an explosive amount of God-Tier energy.

My wife and I also own a modest temperature-controlled garage with more than enough free space, and I will be adding a few freebies such as stickers, magnets, postcards, pins, etc.


It's not about lazy, it's about working smart. Some people are fortunate enough to work this out early, many of us learn on the job through trial and error.

With respect, from reading what you wrote - it comes off as a romanticized labor of love sort of goal you have which is nice and all but not quite realistic from the business side of things.

I have a considerable amount of experience and have worked and still work with those that push large amounts of vinyl / cd / tapes on a continuous basis, so I'm not talking out of turn with the time I'm sharing here with you.

I strongly suggest you reconsider and advantage of what other services that pressing plants may have available to you. There is no benefit to hand shipping each piece of vinyl, at a higher shipping rate than what clients with bulk shipping rates have available. The customer does not know the difference. All they care about is to get their vinyl quick and undamaged.

For smaller more exclusive vinyl, say - a test press or a signed release, lower press amounts, they sell at an inflated rate so you'd be better suited with shipping those by hand, even if a less beneficial shipping rate is available for you to utilize.

I suggest not involving your wife into this new venture unless your goal is to be tired and never get laid ever again. Unless your wife wants to make a picture for you in photoshop to use as a cover, leave her alone and keep work separate.

Perhaps be open to changing your opinion of this whole "corporate devil" talk, it makes you sound weird. The goal is to have your vinyl in hands of customers, not make it a maze of difficulty to purchase just to feel like you're keeping it grass roots. You'd be so fortunate to even have access to have your vinyl in corporate owned locations.

At the end of the day, good luck to you and I hope it all works out.
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By Lampdog Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:56 pm
I read all of it.

We all have seen and heard rude before, imo, richie’s comment is not that.

None of it was “rude” as per the report.
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By BKLYN Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:42 pm
Lampdog wrote:I read all of it.

We all have seen and heard rude before, imo, richie’s comment is not that.

None of it was “rude” as per the report.


I'm afraid I have to disagree with you and since you refuse to be fair and balanced, I will bypass him and his blatant rudeness altogether being that he's nowhere near sincere or helpful...
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By NearTao Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:45 pm
BKLYN wrote:I'm afraid I have to disagree with you and since you refuse to be fair and balanced, I will bypass him and his blatant rudeness altogether being that he's nowhere near sincere or helpful...


Disagree all you want, but it does seem strange that you take the time to ask for advice, and then when Richie posts his experience/opinions that you dismiss them, put them down, and get offended.

Are you legitimately looking for information, or is there some kind of popularity contest going on that I wasn't aware of?
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By BKLYN Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:02 am
NearTao wrote:
BKLYN wrote:I'm afraid I have to disagree with you and since you refuse to be fair and balanced, I will bypass him and his blatant rudeness altogether being that he's nowhere near sincere or helpful...


Disagree all you want, but it does seem strange that you take the time to ask for advice, and then when Richie posts his experience/opinions that you dismiss them, put them down, and get offended.

Are you legitimately looking for information, or is there some kind of popularity contest going on that I wasn't aware of?


I don't know what weirdo contest you're talking about, I don't care about popularity, if I did I would make pop music instead of progressive boom bap and be a sellout on a corporate-owned label run by corporate Devils.

I came in here looking for helpful advice and the guy was rude to me and the moderator is claiming to not see the obvious, so instead I will bypass that guy altogether instead of going back and forth with his toxic negativity.

I also explained very politely and clearly that I'm only interested in distribution to Mom and Pop shops, I don't want anything to do with corporations because they are bad for good music and I prefer to do as much as possible by myself to cut out all unnecessary corporate devil middlemen.

Paying an additional fee to a corporate-owned pressing plant does not make smart business sense for me when I'm more than capable of doing it myself. I'm going with a mom-and-pop black-owned pressing plant because they have a strong work ethic, and I know I can trust them to deliver excellent quality.

If I have to do distribution myself then that's what I will do, I'm not lazy and I don't mind.
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By richie Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:46 am
I responded in kind to someone I interpreted to have good intentions however clearly lacks knowledge in the venture they are pursuing totally blind.

I'm still responding in kind as the last thing I ever want to do is discourage anyone on here from pursuing any area of music production.

In your follow up post, I can see several inaccuracies and misguided ideas but can respect that you would rather choose to learn through trial and error, good luck to you.

Anyone else reading and has issue? Chime in.
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By BKLYN Wed Mar 18, 2026 9:56 am
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Here is what I've learned so far since releasing my vinyl.

Doing it yourself is not hard. There are a lot of decisions along the way, such as vinyl format, artwork, and packaging design, proper SRO credits, point of sales accounting system, and lots of clear and concise communication, so much to do. Still, it wasn't a difficult journey at all.

I secured a deal with a pressing plant up in Canada at a great rate, and the best part is that I can drive up there to pick up my records and only pay a $15 fee when crossing back into the U.S.

We set up our garage for storage, packing, and shipping, and created a very efficient mail-order system.

I have driven to parts of British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, and California to personally distribute our records to small Mom and Pop operations, which has been a lot of fun because I've met all sorts of really cool and honorable hardworking people with whom I'm proud of building relationships.

I also secured aiplay on numerous college and internet radio mixshows and have been getting support from DJs who are buying the records and making videos on their social media profiles to support our movement.

And thankfully, we have been selling vinyl at a decent pace despite a few recent technical errors on Bandcamp that they are currently working on to fix.

Most of this process has been surprisingly easy, and we're preparing to do our second vinyl release, which I'm pretty excited for because I get to demonstrate some musical and sonic growth as I mixed the new project using my new SSL mixing platform.

Keep in mind, we're not going to generate a profit from our initial release, not at all, but it worth it because we're establishing relationships, developing our Mom and Pop label's brand, and demonstrating to our mail-order customers that we are faithful to them by delivering a high-quality product and the importance of keeping our word.

Being a new label owner has been a very positive experience thus far, and as I continue to learn more reliable information from various people in the business, I hope it lasts for a long time so I can help as many artists as possible get their art out to the world on vinyl, cassette, and CD where it belongs ... - East Flatbush BKLYN

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By W. Steele Wed Mar 18, 2026 4:33 pm
@BKLYN , what plant in Canada did you use? I'm in Albany, NY and am working on creating a scratch/break record for DJ's so I am sourcing plants to get the project pressed later this year. If there's any type of kick back you get for referrals I will be sure to mention you sent me their way. Thanks!
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By BKLYN Thu Mar 19, 2026 11:30 am
W. Steele wrote:@BKLYN , what plant in Canada did you use? I'm in Albany, NY and am working on creating a scratch/break record for DJ's so I am sourcing plants to get the project pressed later this year. If there's any type of kick back you get for referrals I will be sure to mention you sent me their way. Thanks!


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