MPC 3 -- Let's GO!!

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Re: MPC 3 -- Let's GO!!

By emdog Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:35 pm
lmao either house with a mouse is in a band and only records audio straight to disk or he only downloads splice samples and mix and matches drums and premade loops. My guess is that it is the latter.

Midi on the way out/second class hahahahah
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Re: MPC 3 -- Let's GO!!

By Monotremata Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:13 pm
emdog wrote:Midi on the way out/second class hahahahah


Yeah I mean, there aint no audio coming from my Prophet unless MIDI is telling it what to play.. Somehow I don't think its on its way out considering every single **** synth and sampler in existence is using it for performance purposes. How does one get audio in from a desktop synth without MIDI? Magic?? MPC Magic??

Sorry he cant play instruments or anything, but most of the rest of the music world does and MIDI aint going anywhere any time soon heh.
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By chilom Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:54 pm
well... while MIDI is an industry standard, that actually solve this class of problems on his own, it's not the only one. There have been plenty, proprietary or not, protocols to achieve the same objective ie : Control Voltage, or OSC to name a few.
With MIDI 2.0 about to hit the streets, it's likely to stay for a long time. But nothing prevent a manufacturer to do his own stuff...

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By LivePsy Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:00 pm
MIDI 2.0 will never be widely accepted. MIDI 1 over USB quietly replaced enhancements to MIDI. It solved the slow protocol.
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By EnochLight Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:16 pm
LivePsy wrote:MIDI 2.0 will never be widely accepted.


It may take a while - like a long while - but it may eventually. MIDI 2.0 truly brings some great features to the protocol, and supporting it will only make equipment that does support it that more feature-rich. Also, MIDI 2.0 has been supported over USB (officially) for a few years now.

That said, this thread is starting to veer off-topic again. One thing is for sure: it may be quite a while before MPC 3 supports MIDI 2.0! :lol:
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By Jean-Marc Liotier Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:57 pm
EnochLight wrote:One thing is for sure: it may be quite a while before MPC 3 supports MIDI 2.0! :lol:
Not announcing a date is smart marketing by Akai: always give some fodder to the speculation addicts.

Also, even when we'll know when MPC supports MIDI 2.0, we still won't know when MPC supports MIDI 2.0 correctly !
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By Monotremata Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:43 am
LivePsy wrote:MIDI 2.0 will never be widely accepted. MIDI 1 over USB quietly replaced enhancements to MIDI. It solved the slow protocol.


Not really. MIDI is still the same old serial protocol and format, it's just using a fancy connector now and getting handled by a USB port. USB Midi didn't solve any problems but make it easier for each synth to finally get its own dedicated port now, so you don't have drift and delay when you've got more than 2 or 3 daisy chained together.

Still takes about a millisecond to transmit one single midi message, and it still only transmits ONE message at a time regardless of how many channels or events are coming in. MIDI channel 2 needs to get in line and wait for MIDI channel 1 to send its note data, and MIDI channel 3 has to wait for those two, while you go figure out where to put the clock ticks in, and anything else you're sending over. God forbid you got something doing Sysex while you're trying to play a 16 channel sequence.

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By othernet Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:54 am
With 3.0 adopting and adapting more of Force’s features, good chance Akai will merge Force with MPC? After all, the major difference hardware wise is the 64 keys but they do have the APCs and I guess you can hook it up like an external keyboard does. Everything else is software based, especially the clips and matrix.
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By Neodymium Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:57 am
Midi USB introduced noise into some synths. I liked having the names come up, but a USB disconnection of a HUB would means lots of re-setting. Midi cables however, in and out as you want. I can't see me adopting Midi 2 if it's a different connection, as none of my stuff has that, and Midi 1 works well. I'm hoping my gear buying days are over, I have a good set up as it.

That being said, I'm glad the technology with midi is moving forward, and hardware synths are stronger than ever.

Midi 1 was just a phenomenal, what other protocol has lasted 4 decades!
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By chilom Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:19 am
Neodymium wrote:Midi USB introduced noise into some synths. I liked having the names come up, but a USB disconnection of a HUB would means lots of re-setting. Midi cables however, in and out as you want. I can't see me adopting Midi 2 if it's a different connection, as none of my stuff has that, and Midi 1 works well. I'm hoping my gear buying days are over, I have a good set up as it.

That being said, I'm glad the technology with midi is moving forward, and hardware synths are stronger than ever.

Midi 1 was just a phenomenal, what other protocol has lasted 4 decades!


IPv4 ? :-)

you may wanna read the faq : https://midi.org/details-about-midi-2-0 ... -june-2023

Anyway as Enoch reminded us, we are going off topic.
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Re: MPC 3 -- Let's GO!!

By Lampdog Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:31 am
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:always give some fodder to the speculation addicts.

And they are everywhere, phuccin up the air, messing up whatever.

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By Elijah Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:08 am
Neodymium wrote:Midi USB introduced noise into some synths.

Opto-isolating the serial MIDI is a great design choice.

Re: MPC 3 -- Let's GO!!

By Evan.Dornbus.ch Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:31 am
Hello all,

I'm three months into my musical journey and I decided an MPC One+ was a good fit for me to continue developing my passion and learning. I'm hoping I didn't bite off more than I can chew, but I'm confident I can handle the work it takes to get good!

The decision was easy for me once I saw some of the MPC 3 workflow. I've signed up to the beta through the link, reached out via email and support, etc. but my unit arrived yesterday and I haven't heard anything back yet. I don't suppose there's a safe and Akai-approved way to sideload the beta, is there? I suspect the new update will help my development as a musician.
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By MPC-Tutor Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:45 am
Evan.Dornbus.ch wrote: I don't suppose there's a safe and Akai-approved way to sideload the beta, is there? I suspect the new update will help my development as a musician.


No, it's a private beta and still being worked on. You don't need MPC3 to help you develop as a musician, MPC4 is the one to wait for :wink:

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By jpeg Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:27 am
MPC-Tutor wrote:
Evan.Dornbus.ch wrote: I don't suppose there's a safe and Akai-approved way to sideload the beta, is there? I suspect the new update will help my development as a musician.


No, it's a private beta and still being worked on. You don't need MPC3 to help you develop as a musician, MPC4 is the one to wait for :wink:


there will be no clamour for 4.0; as now 3.0 has delivered all the missing features namley the mixer, the arranger and disk streaming, so I think 3.0 has basically future proofed the MPC OS, but of course they will still add minor features and bug fixes but all the main elements are pretty much in the MPC OS now.

not sure how that guy thinks 3.0 will improve is musical devlopment; very stange perspective to have.
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