MPC 3 - no time signature option...?

Logrinn wrote:I created 7/4 and 5/4 on the MPC ver3.
It’s not really those signatures, but a bit of a trick. But at least it gets the wanted result.

lol, the sheldon cooper in me wants the loop to stop skipping and give me closure. its like watching a clock go around and it never fully complete its cycle haha piss some ocd ppl right off.

Ultros wrote:

Logrinn wrote:I created 7/4 and 5/4 on the MPC ver3.
It’s not really those signatures, but a bit of a trick. But at least it gets the wanted result.

lol, the sheldon cooper in me wants the loop to stop skipping and give me closure. its like watching a clock go around and it never fully complete its cycle haha piss some ocd ppl right off.

Sorry about that

Logrinn wrote:I created 7/4 and 5/4 on the MPC ver3.
It’s not really those signatures, but a bit of a trick. But at least it gets the wanted result.

for those who havent installed 3 yet, could you explain a bit more please?
what are you doing, and how is it "not really" those signatures?

EDIT - ok, I ve seen the post about it just now, so, apreciate your effort but its obviously not a solution to work with, at least not for me ... but nice demo

Thanks.
Yes, it’s nothing ideal and pretty cumbersome to work like this, but at least it’s a way to create your odd time signatures until the proper version is launched.

Another way could be to consider all 4/4 bars as 1/4 bars. With 64ths divisions instead of 16ths.
Then just chain the desired number of such bars and you get an odd ”time signature”. Three such bars = 3/4, five = 5/4 and so on. You raise the tempo four times the desired and then use Song mode to convert these bars to a ”3/4”- and/or a ”5/4”-bar (sequence).
Then those 3/4, 5/4 (and so on) sequences would be your odd time signature ”building blocks” to work with.

No time sig? oh dam how Akai miss that.

MPC 3 is a port of the Force OS. Force OS only operates at 4/4, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

legs mechanical wrote:MPC 3 is a port of the Force OS. Force OS only operates at 4/4, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

The Force does not have tempo automation though (yet). So there are differences. But you're right, there is no telling as to when AKAI would bring time signature change back.

At the end of the day, it's like clip programs or track mutes per sequences or lack there of, nobody is forced to update at first place.

I am in beta 3.0. My time signature is 2/4. I am locked into that time signature currently, just posting to let some know that you may not be able to change your default right now, but the time signature may be reflective of what your last default time signature was before you updated to 3.0. It hasn’t really bothered me personally I just figured… it’s in beta so there is plenty of other stuff to wrap my head around in the meantime.

legs mechanical wrote:MPC 3 is a port of the Force OS. Force OS only operates at 4/4, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

True, but on the Force you can record each clip at different bar lengths from 24 ticks up to 12,600 bars.

Also, why judge the beta as if these missing features are permanen?
I would wait for the official OS before I make any real judgment.

legs mechanical wrote:MPC 3 is a port of the Force OS. Force OS only operates at 4/4, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Not to beat a dead horse, but this is such a strange limitation especially coming from a device targeted at EDM.

960ppqn can hack quite a few time signatures without worry... and if you want "off the grid" anyways... I'm with you... get some 3/4 shuffled loops and play to that...

The math isn't *that* hard... and you can ignore it to a certain extent...

My quick hack, that requires no math... is
* play out some drum hits at the tempo you want (forget BPM)...
* then go into sample edit, chop it down to the number of beats you want it to be in a measure
* put the sample on a drum kit, and trigger the chopped down sample on 1.1
* adjust the BPM up/down until you get a clean loop/tempo of your sample measure

Once you've got the above done... you just play to the track, and adjust note hits by ear. It'll definitely get you off the grid... just ignore quantize...

legs mechanical wrote:MPC 3 is a port of the Force OS. Force OS only operates at 4/4, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

It looks like the MPC3 OS does support time signature settings internally.
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=218084&start=1335#p1885109

you dont need a time signature option if you set the proper grid granularity and you deduce the correct mathematical fractions. Like I mentioned SAE wrenches are your guide to getting off time on a square grid. ignore that the grid has lines on the square part and program in on the piano roll until you figure it out.



Notice how all the wrenches are ending with 4,8,16,32? just like musical timing. the length of your loop shouldnt be distorted because of the spacing of your notes or else you will never have a properly formatted song in any sense just randomness and noise.

the first number is the number of notes evenly spread across the second number's amount of spaces. thats all. if you cant fit it, up the tc granularity (or denominator for those of you who remember math) to find the grid format that will fit the notes in the alloted spacing (numerator).

i may be misunderstanding what people want though.

Ultros wrote:i may be misunderstanding what people want though.

Yes.

haha it happens. my bad good luck.