Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

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Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By mraak47 Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:41 pm
Hi! I am considering buying MPC Key 37 to be used in standalone mode, away from computer but am not sure if 2 GB of RAM will be enough for me. I've looked at manuals of these 2 plugins and there is no info about the sizes of included instruments. Can someone please let me know if I will be able to load the following in MPC Key 37 (will prefer to be able to load XL versions of Fabric XL):


Track 1: 1 acoustic drums kit, The Modern Session Kit (12 Velocity Layers set from MPC-Samples)

Tracks 2,3,4,5,6,7,8: 7 instances of Fabric XL (1 acoustic guitar patch, 1 electric guitar Les Paul patch, 1 electric guitar Strat patch, 1 electric bass guitar patch, 1 grand piano patch, 1 pads patch and 1 Full Choir Aah patch)

Track 9: 1 Studio Strings (all string ensemble) patch


If not possible, what about if I buy MPC Key 61 with 4 GB of RAM instead, will 4 GB be enough?


Thanks :worthy:
Best Regards,
Danijel
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Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By Lampdog Sun Dec 15, 2024 6:15 pm
mraak47 wrote:Tracks 2,3,4,5,6,7,8: 7 instances of Fabric XL (1 acoustic guitar patch, 1 electric guitar Les Paul patch, 1 electric guitar Strat patch, 1 electric bass guitar patch, 1 grand piano patch, 1 pads patch and 1 Full Choir Aah patch)
Track 9: 1 Studio Strings (all string ensemble) patch


MPC Key61, 4gb, v2.15, this is 78% with low memory warning showing.

Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By mraak47 Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:20 pm
Lampdog wrote:
mraak47 wrote:Tracks 2,3,4,5,6,7,8: 7 instances of Fabric XL (1 acoustic guitar patch, 1 electric guitar Les Paul patch, 1 electric guitar Strat patch, 1 electric bass guitar patch, 1 grand piano patch, 1 pads patch and 1 Full Choir Aah patch)
Track 9: 1 Studio Strings (all string ensemble) patch


MPC Key61, 4gb, v2.15, this is 78% with low memory warning showing.

Hi Lampdog, thanks a bunch man for taking time to check this for me, I really appreciate it 8)

Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By mraak47 Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:43 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:In a 2GB MPC, Fabric XL uses 14% per instance, irrespective of the patch loaded. So that's 98% ram.
Studio strings = 31% per instance (all patches)

Modern Session Kit is an additional 7% for the 16 articulation 12 velocity patch, 13% for a snapshot patch.

Hi and thanks so much for this info MPC-Tutor! But forgot to ask how much % approx. of the RAM takes MPC OS? And, am I correct that for the MPC Key 61 (4GB RAM) one Fabric XL instance takes half as much as for Key 37, which means 7%? If yes, that means that 7 instances of Fabrix XL takes up 49% + 15.5% for the Studio Strings full ensemble patch, that is 64.5% total RAM for Key 61. If this is correct, how come that Lampdog said for him (7 instances of Fabric XL + 1 Studio Strings instance in MPC Key 61) it takes 78% of RAM with low memory warning showing? Did he maybe made a mistake or am I wrong? Thanks a bunch!
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Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By MPC-Tutor Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:50 pm
The % ram shown in the the MPC is % of available space after the operating system is accounted for. I don't have a 4GB model but Lamp does, so I'd go with what he's stating. Arguably the key should have 3 times the available ram, as the OS uses around 1GB, so it has 3GB spare compared to 1GB on the MPC Live/One etc. But perhaps the 4GB models use up more RAM in the first place.
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Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By Lampdog Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:27 am
Yes, standalone MPC OS takes up RAM, you will never get a full 2gb/4gb for your personal usage, never.

I took the time to load up the exact patches or as close as I could get to them in the post above.

Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By 40Beatz Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:41 pm
My suggestion would be to Bounce certain tracks to Audio Samples after you're set with how those Instrument Plug-ins will sound in the mix. That would free up alot of Ram

Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By mraak47 Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:22 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:The % ram shown in the the MPC is % of available space after the operating system is accounted for. I don't have a 4GB model but Lamp does, so I'd go with what he's stating. Arguably the key should have 3 times the available ram, as the OS uses around 1GB, so it has 3GB spare compared to 1GB on the MPC Live/One etc. But perhaps the 4GB models use up more RAM in the first place.

Thanks MPC-Tutor again! Great, just wonder about 3 more things. Can I have different Fabric versions (Fabric and Fabric XL) loaded in the same project? For example, for electric guitar instruments on track 1 and 2 I would load Fabric XL versions but for all other instruments on tracks 3, 4, 5 ... I would load Fabric version. Possible? Also, am I correct that Fabric version of instruments takes approx. half as much RAM as Fabric XL? And, are all Fabric instruments available in both Fabric XL and Fabric versions? Thanks!
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Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By MPC-Tutor Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:34 pm
Yes to all :smoker:

mraak47 wrote:Thanks MPC-Tutor again! Great, just wonder about 3 more things. Can I have different Fabric versions (Fabric and Fabric XL) loaded in the same project? For example, for electric guitar instruments on track 1 and 2 I would load Fabric XL versions but for all other instruments on tracks 3, 4, 5 ... I would load Fabric version. Possible? Also, am I correct that Fabric version of instruments takes approx. half as much RAM as Fabric XL? And, are all Fabric instruments available in both Fabric XL and Fabric versions? Thanks!

Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By mraak47 Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:49 pm
Lampdog wrote:Yes, standalone MPC OS takes up RAM, you will never get a full 2gb/4gb for your personal usage, never.

I took the time to load up the exact patches or as close as I could get to them in the post above.

Thanks Lampdog so much for the info and confirmation 8)

Re: Fabric XL and Studio Strings instruments size info

By mraak47 Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:52 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:Yes to all :smoker:

mraak47 wrote:Thanks MPC-Tutor again! Great, just wonder about 3 more things. Can I have different Fabric versions (Fabric and Fabric XL) loaded in the same project? For example, for electric guitar instruments on track 1 and 2 I would load Fabric XL versions but for all other instruments on tracks 3, 4, 5 ... I would load Fabric version. Possible? Also, am I correct that Fabric version of instruments takes approx. half as much RAM as Fabric XL? And, are all Fabric instruments available in both Fabric XL and Fabric versions? Thanks!

Awesome, thanks MPC-Tutor 8)
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