New MPC Device Listed in FCC Database

B-Wise wrote:Akai may drop a MPC Mini in the future, but this ain't it. Maybe it's new model all together. Let's wait for more info.

what makes u certain this is not the MPC Live mini? also what makes u think its an entirely new model when the form factor suggests MPC Live?

Or is it that you would prefer Akai release a different type of unit? perhaps some users would prefer some kind of MPC Live/ Force hybrid? which given the fact that an update to the Force is due in the next month or so; that may also be a possibilty.

But its very curious the visceral reaction people have towards the idea of a smaller MPC.

jpeg wrote:

B-Wise wrote:Akai may drop a MPC Mini in the future, but this ain't it. Maybe it's new model all together. Let's wait for more info.

what makes u certain this is not the MPC Live mini? also what makes u think its an entirely new model when the form factor suggests MPC Live?

Or is it that you would prefer Akai release a different type of unit? perhaps some users would prefer some kind of MPC Live/ Force hybrid? which given the fact that an update to the Force is due in the next month or so; that may also be a possibilty.

But its very curious the visceral reaction people have towards the idea of a smaller MPC.

We need a big giant clown emoji for this guy..

jpeg wrote:But its very curious the visceral reaction people have towards the idea of a smaller MPC.

Let’s be clear - the only visceral reaction is most of us reacting to your claim there’s an MPC Mini with zero evidence. ZERO. And all of us knowing the original source of the hoax admitting as much. Our visceral reaction is your attempt at gaslighting. No one is saying it wouldn’t be cool to have one.

Hope that clears things up for you.

jpeg wrote:

B-Wise wrote:Akai may drop a MPC Mini in the future, but this ain't it. Maybe it's new model all together. Let's wait for more info.

what makes u certain this is not the MPC Live mini? also what makes u think its an entirely new model when the form factor suggests MPC Live?

Or is it that you would prefer Akai release a different type of unit? perhaps some users would prefer some kind of MPC Live/ Force hybrid? which given the fact that an update to the Force is due in the next month or so; that may also be a possibilty.

But its very curious the visceral reaction people have towards the idea of a smaller MPC.

The key word in my post is, MAYBE. Meaning I don't know what Akai is planning, so I'm just guessing like everybody else. I even said they may drop a mini, so your last sentence doesn't apply to me.

People aren't saying Akai won't ever make a mini, they're making fun of logic. Do you understand the difference. What is this strange thing you have about being right & proving others wrong & have them "bend the knee & kiss the ring"? This sound so cringey & something that a teenage edge-lord would say & be focused on.

It's 3.0 "myth" all over again. Most people knew it was coming or at least a possibility based on what Dan said back in 2019. Most people was pissed off about you saying it just around the corner until it finally was & you claiming that you was "right" - eventually.

You do understand that first dude that admitted that he made up the Mini could still be wrong even if Akai does make a mini because at the time they may had no plans for it or had plans but never started work on it & the dude just happen to made a BS guess that turned out to right?

There's a subject in logic called epistemology that would be very helpful.

Isn't the mpc one small and compact enough to be treated as a mini live? BTW how mini are we talking here? PO mini, PO KOII mini or sth else?

MGoolas wrote:Isn't the mpc one small and compact enough to be treated as a mini live? BTW how mini are we talking here? PO mini, PO KOII mini or sth else?

Fold out, Nintendo 3dsXL size. Just have to look at the label dimensions.

at 12:30 Yoad Nevo alludes to another Akai device that is similar vein to Albelton Move.

Given that ACVG was sent for testing late November, the timeframe potentially could match but... Nevo said they talked about it a couple of weeks prior that episode so it would mean he has seen some sort of POC (you would have to find that specific episode where they've discussed it) On the other hand he basically stated that Akai device is shit and Ableton Move is less fiddly and more hands on which makes me believe more on POC type of stuff. On top of it in the firmware, there's an ACVC as well, which didn't reach the FCC stage yet (and same as ACVK might never do) so given the everything we have at hand atm, I'am still keen to believe in Live II SE more that this stuff.

dustyslices wrote:Given that ACVG was sent for testing late November, the timeframe potentially could match but... Nevo said they talked about it a couple of weeks prior that episode so it would mean he has seen some sort of POC (you would have to find that specific episode where they've discussed it) On the other hand he basically stated that Akai device is shit and Ableton Move is less fiddly and more hands on which makes me believe more on POC type of stuff. On top of it in the firmware, there's an ACVC as well, which didn't reach the FCC stage yet (and same as ACVK might never do) so given the everything we have at hand atm, I'am still keen to believe in Live II SE more that this stuff.

Consider that we have already had Live II special editions; we had the retro colour and the red supreme edition, and the timbaland edition.

Also if it was a Live II SE why would it now have less memory? as Yoad stated the device he saw had limited memory, also if it was a special edition why would they suddenly remove the speaker? the new FCC listing had no mention of an in built speaker, while the orginal Live 2 FCC listing did mention a speaker.

But there mere fact that he brought up an Akai device when asked about the Albeton Move leads me to conclude that the device he saw is of comparable dimensions to the Move; otherwise he would not of immediatlely made that comparisson unprovoked.

He refers to being on the show a couple of weeks previously, I've watched that show and the only sampling device they discuss is the Roland P6. There he talks about these small devices being too fiddly and overly complicated. I believe when he said the new 'Akai' device he actually meant 'Roland'.

And by 'new device' he's clearly talking about 'newly released'.

jpeg wrote:

at 12:30 Yoad Nevo alludes to another Akai device that is similar vein to Albelton Move.

Hang on Andy... you're not trying to say that the fact of them not discussing any Akai products in the previous episode was conveniently left out ? are you ?

dustyslices wrote:

jpeg wrote:but using logic; there was no built in mic on the MPC Live1 or Live2; nor was there any built in mic on the MPC One or the X.
Devices that have built in mics tend to be the smaller devices; that target the portable/bedroom producers crowd such as the SP404.
So following that logic one would expect this device to be smaller then the current MPC Live and smaller then the MPC One, u straight up lied and said the dimensions of the new device are shown on the FCC website, but then u did a gypsy switch and spoke about the label dimensions.

Just admit that u were wrong to dimiss the suggestion of their being an MPC Mini device; as u lack perception ur arrogance blinds u.

'Like Cain u r NOT Able' to asses Akai's product devlopment direction, by looking at market trends, and competitors within the beat machine/sampler market place.

but ur very salty

Oh god…. where do I begin ? That's going to be quite long as I don't think I will be able to mentally lower to your level again so let me break it down for you genius:

jpeg wrote:I asked about exact measurements of the device; NOT the exact measurements of the label, also the lable measurments are somewhat ambigous due to lack of metric or imperial units.

1. Label measurements are ambigious only for someone at your mental level, even if it's not stated anywhere what units are displayed, what do you think the unit will be chosen in an OFFICIAL documentation ? Sticks ? Knuckles,Stones, dicks (if so then are they african, caucasian or straight asian dicks ?) spoons, chopsticks? Given that this website carry 1000's of other documents written with metric units YOU think that this one in particular show some newly invented units just because "f**k the system". Heck even if you would have to choose between Metric and Imperial - by your logic, it is possible that this label is 75 inches wide yes? Overall, it is Ambigious because you wan't it to be ambigous and it's most suitable for your theory that you keep repeating as it was some kind of competition while nobody give a single damn about it.

jpeg wrote:So following that logic one would expect this device to be smaller then the current MPC Live and smaller then the MPC One, u straight up lied and said the dimensions of the new device are shown on the FCC website, but then u did a gypsy switch and spoke about the label dimensions.

dustyslices wrote:They're on the FCC website - you have exact measurements of the label and you also have exact placement of the label in relation to the unit itself. It's not that hard to extract full device measurements is it ?

Which part of extrapolating measurements you don't understand ? Don't call me liar because you exactly know what was written and what that post stands for, the only dude who's doing some gypsy switching is you with your "i can't see it" " i don't understand it" "it doesn't say exactly and I have to think" "I need to be spoon fed"

jpeg wrote:Just admit that u were wrong to dimiss the suggestion of their being an MPC Mini device; as u lack perception ur arrogance blinds u.

'Like Cain u r NOT Able' to asses Akai's product devlopment direction, by looking at market trends, and competitors within the beat machine/sampler market place.

but ur very salty

Wrong? Again... dude, this is not a competition or some sort of dick comparison contest - I really don't give a damn about you or your pulled straight from the ass opinion because you bring nothing in substance to the table. Difference between me and you is that I'm looking at what I have in front of me, trying to make out something out of it, while you write some bullshit stories without even trying to investigate anything. Dude… this is the reason nobody treat you seriously here and everyone is laughing at you…
This is also the reason why I can't be salty, I just simply can't because I don't care - they can bring micro mini even tomorrow and make it free of charge for those who stood by them and believed in all those "mini stories" through all those years, I don't care dude… I don't know how to put this more straight for you apart of saying that it only could bother someone with your mentality - big boys don't care especially after all those years...
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Now let's get back to something with more of a substance:
Left screen LIVE II --- Right screen ACVG
They look exactly same to me no matter what you going to say.
Official Label width in the documents equals to 75mm no matter what you will say THEREFORE in my opinion the unit will be size of LIVE II


Just for shit and giggles - here's the LIVE II label - I know you will say that this image clearly shows that the label is one hundreth of a milimiter short of 75mm so therefore I must be wrong but I'll take that risk and say that Live 2 label was 75mm wide as well.



oh look... 65W Charger going into big ass 14.4V LI-ION battery pack. This means two things only:
1. Battery pack is way too big for a handheld device (at least 4* 18650 / preferably 8* for approx 50Wh)
2. 65W into handheld/mini device ? in DC terms it will be around 19v * 3.x amps (umphhhhhh)...
but obviously I'm making shit up and you know better.

I could pull more examples but as I said at the beginning - trying to reason with you is an exhausting mental challenge so I'll leave it like that... and just say that it will be LIVE 2 SE with 4gigs imho

EDIT:
dread the day when you find out that there's ACVC & ACVK as well

It looks like the ACVG uses the same adapter as the One and Live...

offline wrote:If ya guys put as much energy into making beats as you do into your arguments about equipment that doesn't exist yet, those beats would be fire

Those pictures don't actually look the same though..
The sticker is in a different place in relation to the side and the back and the power button are completely different..
Sorry to anger anyone..