MPD MPK RAY wrote:BigUncleBucks wrote:The Blues comes from the Berber slave traders of North Africa that middle manned the African slave trade for the Arabs, who taught West African slaves the music of the Berbers whilst in transit.
Showing a joke of a woman who cheated her way into the Olympics and who doesn't represent the true Hip Hop culture isn't an argument. It's a cherry picking logic fallacy.
If you making any modern music that follows a scale, you can throw a shout out to Pythagoras and the ancient Greeks for inventing the tunings, using maths to determine the relationships between chords etc. Almost everything in most modern music relies on those scales.
I'm not gonna argue with you man, but it would be real sweet if you read some books, traveled outside of your country and educated yourself to improve your perspective on things. There is A LOT of great Hip Hop being made around the world, by great people who are passionate about their craft. Much love and respect to you as human being. Later for whatever gate keeping you feel entitled to.
I'll leave you with something to contemplate. You are in an MPC forum. The MPC was invented by Roger Linn, a white guy, and manufactured by Japanese engineers. Emile Berliner invented the vinyl record and microphone, a German-American. We all in this together bud.
If by books you mean HIS-story books that lie and hide Black culture and inventions yes I can quote some rhetoric.
The instrument to play scales came from Zimbabwe. The Mbira came FIRST BEFORE THE PIANO from the Zambezi (South Africa). THE FIRST PIANO. My kids are from there. I been across the world too homeboy.

STOLEN LIBRARY BOOKS FROM AFRICA. Math that Pythagoras and the Greeks claimed was ALREADY invented by Black people.
Look at the columns inside the Great Pyramids of Africa.

Then look at the columns in ROME.
Bet you didn't know those castles you were visiting were built by

Musical Black MOORES.
Aboriginal Australians identify as Black and refer to themselves as such so they catch hell from the whites like they do in Brazil or Japan. I don't need to fly there. See? No books needed. We in the future now.
You need to leave this Black American music origin story to me. I know what you don't. I was born in the Bricks.
Before you assume I meant any diss I did not. I'm just showing you it doesn't matter if silk was spun into a jacket in Korea.
It's not DOPE until WE wear it. Nobody care if Tinker Hatfield wears his own creations. Michael Jordan is THE GOD of sneaker tech because it is designed AROUND HIM.
Answer me this: Have you clicked on the MPC Legends video I just posted? We give it up to Roger Linn but even he said he ain't SHHH without the GENIUS Black Americans invent ever since WE touched the pads.
WE invented Techno.
We invented Grunge Rock.
We invented Rock and Roll.
We invented THE DRUM
I love all races so let us cook another Kool & The Gang, Isley Brothers, Whitney or George Clinton for you to chase around the globe.
#jersey

That metal on the Marimba seems to have held up incredibly well for the 2500 years+ it needed to predate Pythagoras.
Black Africans only ruled in the 25th Dynasty in Egypt from 744 to 656BCE The iconic Egyptian structures were built in 2686 to 2181BCE. Whilst the Kushite kings did expand and created a resurgence in building in Egypt, claiming they invented columns is just ignorant.
I understand that African Americans have had their cultural identities stripped from them and suffered tremendously in American society, but anytime I come across this "we waz kangs" perspective, its nonsensical claims like yours, and any evidence to the contrary (of which there is a significant amount) is just "histories lies".
Ever been to Africa? I've done a lot of business with government ministers and even presidents and prime ministers there, advising them on how to transform their countries. The tribalism, self interest and outright criminality is so deeply entrenched in African society it prevents any real meaningful change from occurring. Sound familiar?
I notice whenever someone is "we waz kangin" They conviently leave out the long running West African slave trade that was quite literally created by Black Africans enslaving surrounding tribes and selling them to Arabic slave traders from around 700AD. The Europeans didn't show up for another 800 years.
Race is such a terrible attribute to judge someone on. Appropriating a disingenuous and cherry picked version history to form a narrative of superiority over others is pretty lame man and just betrays a deeper inferiority complex that is over compensating. I cant believe I'm even wasting my time on this discussion really.
It's comforting to see your passion for music, and you do seem passionate. I admire passion in people and try to surround myself with people that are passionate about what they do. I'd rather connect on that level with you and others. That's what brings people together. If you want to build yourself up by putting others down or lying to yourself, that's on you man. If you want to build yourself up by building up those around you, then we can talk.
Anyway. Loving the Force 3.5 firmware. My Force is now an MPC/Force Hybrid. Great to have the full range of plug ins too. Flex Beat blew my mind last night. I still don't know if it's cheating or a real tool in regards to the scratch elements of it, but it was a lot easier to create movement and evolution in the test beat I made using it and automating the steps. Pretty cool stuff. Definitely a long way from the 2000XL days.