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By MPD MPK RAY Fri May 23, 2025 3:05 am
EnochLight wrote:
BigUncleBucks wrote:I'm white and from Australia,.


Yeah so, anyway - check out “Sinners” from Ryan Coogler. You might learn something.


You just got invited to the Vegan barbecue bro.

TELL THIS MAN!

TELL em :worthy:
By BigUncleBucks Fri May 23, 2025 8:21 am
MPD MPK RAY wrote:
BigUncleBucks wrote:The Blues comes from the Berber slave traders of North Africa that middle manned the African slave trade for the Arabs, who taught West African slaves the music of the Berbers whilst in transit.

Showing a joke of a woman who cheated her way into the Olympics and who doesn't represent the true Hip Hop culture isn't an argument. It's a cherry picking logic fallacy.

If you making any modern music that follows a scale, you can throw a shout out to Pythagoras and the ancient Greeks for inventing the tunings, using maths to determine the relationships between chords etc. Almost everything in most modern music relies on those scales.

I'm not gonna argue with you man, but it would be real sweet if you read some books, traveled outside of your country and educated yourself to improve your perspective on things. There is A LOT of great Hip Hop being made around the world, by great people who are passionate about their craft. Much love and respect to you as human being. Later for whatever gate keeping you feel entitled to.

I'll leave you with something to contemplate. You are in an MPC forum. The MPC was invented by Roger Linn, a white guy, and manufactured by Japanese engineers. Emile Berliner invented the vinyl record and microphone, a German-American. We all in this together bud.

If by books you mean HIS-story books that lie and hide Black culture and inventions yes I can quote some rhetoric.

The instrument to play scales came from Zimbabwe. The Mbira came FIRST BEFORE THE PIANO from the Zambezi (South Africa). THE FIRST PIANO. My kids are from there. I been across the world too homeboy.
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STOLEN LIBRARY BOOKS FROM AFRICA. Math that Pythagoras and the Greeks claimed was ALREADY invented by Black people.
Look at the columns inside the Great Pyramids of Africa.
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Then look at the columns in ROME.
Bet you didn't know those castles you were visiting were built by
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Musical Black MOORES.

Aboriginal Australians identify as Black and refer to themselves as such so they catch hell from the whites like they do in Brazil or Japan. I don't need to fly there. See? No books needed. We in the future now.

You need to leave this Black American music origin story to me. I know what you don't. I was born in the Bricks.
Before you assume I meant any diss I did not. I'm just showing you it doesn't matter if silk was spun into a jacket in Korea.
It's not DOPE until WE wear it. Nobody care if Tinker Hatfield wears his own creations. Michael Jordan is THE GOD of sneaker tech because it is designed AROUND HIM.

Answer me this: Have you clicked on the MPC Legends video I just posted? We give it up to Roger Linn but even he said he ain't SHHH without the GENIUS Black Americans invent ever since WE touched the pads.

WE invented Techno.
We invented Grunge Rock.
We invented Rock and Roll.
We invented THE DRUM

I love all races so let us cook another Kool & The Gang, Isley Brothers, Whitney or George Clinton for you to chase around the globe.


#jersey
:smoker:


That metal on the Marimba seems to have held up incredibly well for the 2500 years+ it needed to predate Pythagoras.

Black Africans only ruled in the 25th Dynasty in Egypt from 744 to 656BCE The iconic Egyptian structures were built in 2686 to 2181BCE. Whilst the Kushite kings did expand and created a resurgence in building in Egypt, claiming they invented columns is just ignorant.

I understand that African Americans have had their cultural identities stripped from them and suffered tremendously in American society, but anytime I come across this "we waz kangs" perspective, its nonsensical claims like yours, and any evidence to the contrary (of which there is a significant amount) is just "histories lies".

Ever been to Africa? I've done a lot of business with government ministers and even presidents and prime ministers there, advising them on how to transform their countries. The tribalism, self interest and outright criminality is so deeply entrenched in African society it prevents any real meaningful change from occurring. Sound familiar?

I notice whenever someone is "we waz kangin" They conviently leave out the long running West African slave trade that was quite literally created by Black Africans enslaving surrounding tribes and selling them to Arabic slave traders from around 700AD. The Europeans didn't show up for another 800 years.

Race is such a terrible attribute to judge someone on. Appropriating a disingenuous and cherry picked version history to form a narrative of superiority over others is pretty lame man and just betrays a deeper inferiority complex that is over compensating. I cant believe I'm even wasting my time on this discussion really.

It's comforting to see your passion for music, and you do seem passionate. I admire passion in people and try to surround myself with people that are passionate about what they do. I'd rather connect on that level with you and others. That's what brings people together. If you want to build yourself up by putting others down or lying to yourself, that's on you man. If you want to build yourself up by building up those around you, then we can talk.

Anyway. Loving the Force 3.5 firmware. My Force is now an MPC/Force Hybrid. Great to have the full range of plug ins too. Flex Beat blew my mind last night. I still don't know if it's cheating or a real tool in regards to the scratch elements of it, but it was a lot easier to create movement and evolution in the test beat I made using it and automating the steps. Pretty cool stuff. Definitely a long way from the 2000XL days.
By jpeg Fri May 23, 2025 10:25 am
:lol: this thread is a dumpster fire but funny; I hope it stay open until Akai announce the new hardware.

Its good to hear peoples broader perspectives; but we are all unified in our MPC/beats interest.

So looks like no hardware announcement this month; I think June would be the cut off for announcing new hardware before summer.

If nothing is announced then it looks like it will be announced in the fall, which I think is more typical of Akai for flagship devices.

FYI I am not a Foundational Black American; but of course I respect the Architechts of Hip Hop; we all know the story of FBA's in the Bronx.

Foundational Black Americans are indeed the most creative group of people culturally and musically, as they also created Soul, Funk, Jazz, Disco, Country, Rock and Roll, Blues, as well as House, Techno.

So FBA are indeed the Architects of modern music without question as far as pioneering genres; but there are dope artists and producers all over the world that make incredible music of all different races.
By BigUncleBucks Fri May 23, 2025 1:50 pm
jpeg wrote::lol: this thread is a dumpster fire but funny; I hope it stay open until Akai announce the new hardware.

Its good to hear peoples broader perspectives; but we are all unified in our MPC/beats interest.

So looks like no hardware announcement this month; I think June would be the cut off for announcing new hardware before summer.

If nothing is announced then it looks like it will be announced in the fall, which I think is more typical of Akai for flagship devices.

FYI I am not a Foundational Black American; but of course I respect the Architechts of Hip Hop; we all know the story of FBA's in the Bronx.

Foundational Black Americans are indeed the most creative group of people culturally and musically, as they also created Soul, Funk, Jazz, Disco, Country, Rock and Roll, Blues, as well as House, Techno.

So FBA are indeed the Architects of modern music without question as far as pioneering genres; but there are dope artists and producers all over the world that make incredible music of all different races.


100% agree.

On the original topic. I am so happy with my Force since 3.3 and now 3.5. Firmware. It's great to have a taste of what you MpC cats have had for a while, coupled with the dope action of the Force. It really is a killer bit of kit. Bugs included. I don't need another bit of gear, so Akai can take their time on some new kit. I'm not fussed.

I started this journey way back in '94. Snaffled up a 2000XL (hot orange) in the early 2000's. Went ITB only for a while on Ableton. The Force has changed my whole workflow. I'm a happy camper. Looking forward to making the next album almost solely on it. I have it maxed out with all the plugins and the new NI ones too. Its too powerful. Force, NI Traktor S8, Reloop 8000 Mk2, Arturia Keys lab Mk2. I've ditched or am.ditching everything else. That's all I need.

Peace and love to everyone. Keep up the keep up.
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By EnochLight Fri May 23, 2025 2:05 pm
BigUncleBucks wrote:The tribalism, self interest and outright criminality is so deeply entrenched in African society it prevents any real meaningful change from occurring. Sound familiar?


It's adorable how you completely ignore that much of modern Africa is like that due to the fact that white colonialism and the slave trade literally raped the continent for the past several centuries.

BigUncleBucks wrote:I notice whenever someone is "we waz kangin" They conveniently leave out the long running West African slave trade that was quite literally created by Black Africans enslaving surrounding tribes and selling them to Arabic slave traders from around 700AD. The Europeans didn't show up for another 800 years.


We've all seen this apologist crap from the white supremacists and extreme right that have come into resurgence here in the US, but it's surprising a white guy from Australia would use this as some sort of defense to support their argument. It's such a ridiculous defense that there's no point even offering a rebuttal. The trans-Atlantic chattel slavery system emphasized dehumanization, hereditary status, and massive forced labor plantations — particularly in the Americas — which were not typical features of indigenous African slavery. Additionally, those African kingdoms that participated in the tans-Atlantic slave trade were not given much choice - they either helped or they'd fall victim as well.

But please continue, Mr. White - we're all ears on how you know so much about black people and their culture! :popcorn:
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By Ultros Fri May 23, 2025 2:30 pm
The thing is Americas weird ideas about this stuff only really matters in America. Carribean people and Africans don't even like Americans. They look down on "African Americans" and don't want anything to do with em specifically because of these type of views... it's learned insanity.



Or let's talk about cultural appropriation for a moment, like that time snoop dog went down to Jamaica and insulted bunny wailer by taking the name snoop lion without givin himself to rastafarianism... Pissed Bunny off..



All that racial psychobabble isnt fair to people just tryng to live their lives. Americans seem to think the racial tension that exists in Americans applies to the globe, it does not. Most of us didn't have slavery or a civil war. The anger and angst toward people of other skin colors doesn't really exist in our cultures because we are not you. No Americans speak to the values of anybody from outside of America, not of any ethnicity or origin. The worst part is the rest of us cannot break through to you so its easier to abandon you to your suffering. It's you, exit the matrix.
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By Lampdog Fri May 23, 2025 3:57 pm
:arrow: New MPC Device Listed in FCC Database


Back button.

Go back.


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By BigUncleBucks Fri May 23, 2025 4:29 pm
EnochLight wrote:
BigUncleBucks wrote:The tribalism, self interest and outright criminality is so deeply entrenched in African society it prevents any real meaningful change from occurring. Sound familiar?


It's adorable how you completely ignore that much of modern Africa is like that due to the fact that white colonialism and the slave trade literally raped the continent for the past several centuries.


BigUncleBucks wrote:I notice whenever someone is "we waz kangin" They conveniently leave out the long running West African slave trade that was quite literally created by Black Africans enslaving surrounding tribes and selling them to Arabic slave traders from around 700AD. The Europeans didn't show up for another 800 years.


We've all seen this apologist crap from the white supremacists and extreme right that have come into resurgence here in the US, but it's surprising a white guy from Australia would use this as some sort of defense to support their argument. It's such a ridiculous defense that there's no point even offering a rebuttal. The trans-Atlantic chattel slavery system emphasized dehumanization, hereditary status, and massive forced labor plantations — particularly in the Americas — which were not typical features of indigenous African slavery. Additionally, those African kingdoms that participated in the tans-Atlantic slave trade were not given much choice - they either helped or they'd fall victim as well.

But please continue, Mr. White - we're all ears on how you know so much about black people and their culture! :popcorn:


Hey bud. I'm on the front line of making meaningful change in Africa, Carribean and South Pacific. In many cases Africa was left with completely intact natural resource infrastructure. Its rusted and busted. Every minister you need to do business with requires a hand out to their brother in law or something. Facts are facts. If that offends you, that's on you. Are you working to bring meaningful change and support development of sub Saharan Africa in you day job. Probably not. I cannot chnage what I see, experience and know because it doesn't fit your narrow world view.


Facts are facts again. If it's inconvenient to your narrative. Then your narrative is wrong. It was actually the British that stopped the slave trade. West Africans literally faught them over it.

Race is dead man. Get over it. People are people and none of us had a hand in whatever happened centuries ago.

The hate in you is just incredible. It seems like you need something outside of your own life to point at and blame for why you aren't where you think.you should be. You can't control the world, but you can control how you react to it. That's on you. You guys brought this racist crap. Not me. Don't get offended when you kick someone in the nuts and then they pull you up about it. Its so damn sad man. You're better than that.
By B-Wise Fri May 23, 2025 5:17 pm
BigUncleBucks wrote:Facts are facts again. If it's inconvenient to your narrative. Then your narrative is wrong. It was actually the British that stopped the slave trade. West Africans literally faught them over it.

This is big ass oversimplification. Totally makes it seems like the British was the heroes. What role did they play before they tried to end it?

Also, many people never mentioned that Arabs that set up that slave trade on the east of Africa way before the Europeans & they wanted more women than men (many Africa men got their dicks cut off to assist/guard the enslaved women used as wives/sex slaves) & the mix kids were raised the hate their Africa side & love the fathers side. The Afro-Arabs were sent to Africa to get their African "bothers & sisters" to join Islam to not be attracted by Muslims.

The British only tried to stop it after they got out of the slave trade & didn't won't others to benefit from it as they did because they knew how lucrative it can be & didn't anyone in those regions to have the competitive advantage. Read the book Islams Black Slaves.

Still these debates never really go nowhere & is not the place of the forum. Let's not turn the special place into reddit or at least start a thread on this topic for those that's interested.
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By Ultros Fri May 23, 2025 5:53 pm
EnochLight wrote:* REDACTED *


Mwhaha, i do this right after posting sometimes because i know its just gonna open a spiral to hell lol.

I wonder what that device could be. I hope it's something different this time... They could use a new product all together away from their current projects that could bring some intetest their way.
By B-Wise Fri May 23, 2025 6:00 pm
EnochLight wrote:* REDACTED *

How about that FCC listing, though - eh?! :lol:

Ok, it looks like Akai is making something again. Will it have more dedicated buttons for MPC3/4?

Side notes: Now that the Force has most of the MPC features that it was missing & the MPC many of the Force features, will they ever both share the OS version like both having 3.5? or will it always be different like the new MPC OS will be 3.6? or will they have Force3.5 & MPC3.5 that's independent but very similar?

This shit kept me up last night :? :lol: What do you guys think?

I'll make a thread about my next question about clips.
By marctronixx Fri May 23, 2025 6:23 pm
a bunch of Internet strangers tryin' to one up the other and "educate" folks on what to watch and what is and is not "hip hop", on a thread talking about a new mpc device listed in the FCC database.

make it make sense...

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