Simple Choice?? Triton Le vs ASR 10 for Hip Hop prod. w/MPC?

If you are asking me, I don't use my ASR at all any more. The only synth that I've been using lately is my Triton Studio. I also have a Motif Rack.

thats a deadly combination jusdafied.....I always thought the asr-10 was a bit overrated...not a bad piece and it had some nice fx but nothing special IMO...0

Check it I have an Asr and A Karma(triton sounds and effects with no sampler). The ASR is an awesome machine way ahead of its time. It took the Triton coming out for me to realize this. It is a very underrated machine and can do things that tritons are now just implementing.( recording audio tracks along with the sequences) for instance. The more and more that I look at the triton the more it looks like The New ASR. As far as the effects I think they are pretty close in quality..therefore I don't use either very often...I think just the longevity of the ASR shows its worth. Tritons were just the new kid on the block...til the motif came.Just my 2 cents peace. Now get out there and lets make some music.

Is ot true what Noyd said, that the MPC doesnt support the Ensoniq format? That doesnt make sense to me. This is all great info BTW. I sent back the Triton in the interim as I make my decision to start anew...with the MPC as my centerpiece to be sure. Peace.

No doubt Plat. The ASR is a great board and it's success is definately a testament to that. It feels a little out dated to me now. You are right that the audio tracks recording was WAY ahead of its time with the ASR and is probably one of the things that gave it the following it has but in my opinion (and there are plently that would disagree) is that it is old news and is fading. There are better boards out there now that will do the same and more. I don't think it has enough of a signature sounds to make it a SUPER LONG TERM classic ala the SP-1200, MPC3000/60, Moog..etc...

Just my opinion here though.


BSK, my suggestion to you would be to get a newer synth. There have been too many advancements in the digital world to warrant getting an outdated board like the ASR. If you do get an ASR, make sure you get one that has the blue LCD. (the newer version)

JusDaFied wrote:

Prah_860_ wrote:

JusDaFied wrote:

Actually the ASR-10 has a 16bit sampler, not 12. And its the 16bit sampling engine and just the type of ADCs in the ASR-10 that give it its sound. The sample rates that you can choose betweent are 30 and 44.1khz.

Also FOO, yes the ASR does come with some factory sounds but that is hardly what people are talking about when they talk about the "sound of the ASR-10". When people discuss the sound of the ASR-10 they are talking about its input/output ala the MPC3000 etc. Those disks that come with the ASR-10 are wack and completely useless.

The effects on the ASR are excellent and I have used many of them in various productions. I can't speak for the LE effects but I do have a Triton Stuidio and the TS effects blow the ASR out of the water.

For the record, I've owned an ASR-10 since they were put on the market. I bought one when they were like 6 months old.

what???.....are you trying to play mind games???....your the one that said it was a 12 bit sampler......and now you've owned on since they were 6 months old?........i am not doubting that you owned on for that long but...please...don't try to act like we made the mistake by saying ish like " ACTUALLY......."...like you are opening up our eyes .....asr-10 a 16 bit sampler?..... really??

Firstly, for the record, I could give a damn about what you doubt or don't doubt.

Am I trying to play mind games?!? It's called a friggen correction jackass. I saw that I put 12 and said "actually, its 16 bit". To be honest this thread is filled with either bad or completely wrong info. And now you are acting like I'm the one when I've been doing nothing but damage control from the onset.

From the vintagesynt.com:

<<<< The ASR-10 stands for the Advanced Sampling Recorder - a completely digital music production studio. It's a 16-bit sampler that came in both keyboard and rack-mount versions. It shipped with 2 MB of sample memory which could be expanded to 16 MB for a few minutes of stereo cd-quality sampling time.>>>>


Fromt the original Ensoniq press release:

<<<<The ASR-10s (list $2995) Advanced Sampling Recorder with SCSI provides you with a complete digital production studio. These high-quality samplers integrate an effects processor, a MIDI sequencer, and a digital tape recorder -- all in one easy-to-use instrument. · Sampling -- Create stunning 16-bit samples in stereo or mono, with up to 16 MB of sample memory.>>>>[/quote]

hey guy...no need for name calling around here.....and i really didn't care about anything else...you said what i wanted to hear......for the record i am not a JACK@$$!!!

Is it possible to sample something in the ASR10,,put some filters and effects to the sample,,,and then,without saving or anything,send that loop though midi to the Mpc.and it will be ready to play?

Alright Prah. Fair enough. Sorry for the name-calling. You just pressed a couple of my buttons. PEACE.

Jus, I guess you have a point. I still have my Asr and i try to use it , but never feel like I use it enough. A lot of cats have tried to buy it off of me , but i would never sell it. It is kinda limiting in some of it's uses but there is always a work around. That's what its all about right? Taking your instrument to its highest level of use. Making it do things you didn't think it could do.
I have to agree that if you are looking to use only one keyboard then it would probably be better to go with the Triton as opposed to an Asr. was that the original question?

Ensoniq EFE EDA EDE files can be converted with Awave to ALMOST any other audio format. Awave supports a HUGE amount of audio formats to convert from or to. EPSDISK, a DOS progam can read/write Ensoniq disks on your computer, search for EFE converters. Then search for Awave. All of this together is how I get copy my EFE EFA EDE sounds from my ASR disks to WAV and into my MPC2kxl.

Platinum...Yes that was the original question and yes all of this info and back and forth has really helped me...I will likely go with a Triton over the ASR at least initially and once I am comfortable doing what I need to do, possibly consider the ASR as an option. The age of the instrument worries me a bit, altho it obviously has incredible staying power and was revolutionary for its time and still holds hi value today. The supposed overuse or popularity of the Triton bothers me a bit, but also affirms it as being a good piece of equipment? As many have said, it is not what gear you have but how you use it. While I thought that maybe Triton was too expensive for a first synth...it is important to be able to have a solid piece of equipment to work with, and that seems to be one. We'll have to see what happens in the end I guess...PEACE, BsK

I have Triton 61key classic, ASR-10 and MPC2kxl. All are good machines with their own personalites.. ASR10 is my gangsta ****, down for anything and **** another **** up if she evens stares at me sideways. Always down for the cause.

Triton is my high maintenance pretty ****. She requires constant care and is a not something you can just in bed with to get a quickie. You gotta learn her likes and dislikes. But once you find that spot she is your slave.

MPC is that round the way girl who just loves to have fun and needs no special care and is always happy to chill with you when you have a beat in your head and need to get it out. She not hard to seq at all and loves the touch of your fingers on her 16 nipples.

Then I got my wife who laughs at me sometimes cause I get so high from my own music and I talk to my machines and give them compliments when they give me what I want.

...comedy Lampdizzle....good isht.

classic

She not hard to seq at all and loves the touch of your fingers on her 16 nipples.
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lmao..... no doubt... a classic!