Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By docmartin120 Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:31 pm
binger0 wrote:see im not trying to sell my beats. Thats where me and you differ. Also the underground market is real big anyways lately, and they rocking breakbeats like non other. We are on two diff sides of the fence doc. U are aiming for the more commerical music, and i respect that, but i am not. im just doing me and not worrying about what will sell and what i should be doing to sell music. i tired the one shot ****, wasnt really my thing. i just did a beat with one shots a few days ago.
www.soundclick.com/djhaze the hub1shot ones. Its just not my steelo. But back to the subject at hand, dude jacked some **** off a website, and recently i had a bunch of problems with my blog for taking a link, without crediting it. But this cat has been told numeorus times to credit his source, and my patience wears real thin with that ****.


Oh ejackin??? ok, but i don't think he was using it for promotional value. See u have a site so thats different than posting on a message board. BUT you do need to change or delete something in the article. :wink:

Also, fam I sell beats to underground cats, I'm close to commerical cats BUT not there yet. What do you mean by oneshots (you got me)? Just giving you some inside info, I see how you like ie. MF Doom, Beatnuts etc. and thats the cats I'm talking about. Oh well my sessions here, chat later peace.

Actually I understand the one shot thing now!!

By ONE Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:42 pm
Yeah...ya'll need to squash the beef. BTW Doc what's Squashed Beef about? And who have you produced for?
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By jorge guzman Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:00 am
yo binger if you gonna get at cats get at them on the humble dont get at them on some blackin ish thats why i posted like that...every post i see u on u blackin at someone... and its koo if you dont like my ish cause i aint never felt urs, its a matter of taste but if you wanna see me beat for beat im pretty sure i will crush ur feelings homie... you postin a beat like every week on soundclick and they ehhhhh, the stuff i got on my link is like 7 months old and rough mixed...
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By binger0 Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:15 am
i dont have to get at idiots on the "humble". Dude was told nicely before to not just jack text of sites without crediting them. Multiple times. But yet he stills tells cats to do there homework and find the link themselves, so they cant read other interviews or see what else the site that he just jacked shit from has to offer. And i peeped your beats and was not impressed. We do two completly different styles of music so i dunno why ur comparing myslef to you. U are trying to be like alc. Im trying to make music that I consider good hip hop. This is all a matter of opinion. If we were to battle i would beat you in the sample based forum and you would beat me in whatever pop act ur emulating. I dont care about cats feedback on these forums casue most of them make the same "music" you do. There is a few that i respect and they give me feedback and i take it. but if u dont like the way i "post" then dont respond. Instead address me with a pm if it bothers u so much.
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By binger0 Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:19 am
if u want to battle though im down.

By elmacaco Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:51 am
I liked Jorge's beats over all, not feeling any of the MC's and I think it would be better if they were instrumentals, but there was some stuff that I thought was interesting as far as the sounds and stuff. But nothing grabbed me, nothing hit me in that spot that made me go Yoooo!!!!!!

It does seem like they are beats for executives, rather than for the people, and it's the people that buy records. Still I see potential in him, as far as being able to actually make something that makes me go yo!! But it isn't there yet. Maybe some of his newer stuff might be, but it sounds less integrated than what I expect to hear in a beat, the different sounds don't really combine as well as they should. They don't clash, but they don't build on each other yet. Something that will no doubt get better with time.

Now Binger's stuff I really feel. When I first was going through his page, I was like, yeah it's pretty good, then each next track was better and better, and many of them made me go banana's cuz he's got a vibe down pat, it sounds together, like the beat is supposed to sound like that, like the sounds were used very well and anyone else flipping them will not match his effort. That's what tells me someone's got talent when only going by beats. I can't front, a couple of his beats had me asking him questions on how he produces, and I rarely ask for advice.

It's like Andreas, his stuff is quick and rough but he's got this ear, even when he's drunk, and it just resonates within me, and apparently a bunch of other cats, gives a real emotional reaction rather than just going by some book someone wrote or what's hot today.

No one wins in a battle, it really is just a waste of time and some divisive shyt, where people pick their friends and who they agree with, so I think it's BS< but talking about Binger's beat when he could teach you a thing or two is just cocky nonsense. Share the love and lets get everybody up, dissin anyone else isn't gonna make you hot, neither is ranking yourself above or below anyone.
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By binger0 Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:57 am
thanks for checking my music out el. I really dont like to battle either, casue half the time the people that want to battle are doing completly diff shi* then what i do. So there is no standard. But i dont refuse the challenge. I really have no beef with jorge or doc or philly, just gave philly my opinion and told him what i thought he did was wack. So if u want to battle jorge im down, but i really have better things to do. peace.
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By docmartin120 Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:37 pm
ONE wrote:Yeah...ya'll need to squash the beef. BTW Doc what's Squashed Beef about? And who have you produced for?


Lets just say "Squashed Beef" is the beginning of my freedom. You'll begin seeing my name later this year.

binger0 wrote:thanks for checking my music out el. I really dont like to battle either, casue half the time the people that want to battle are doing completly diff shi* then what i do. So there is no standard. But i dont refuse the challenge. I really have no beef with jorge or doc or philly, just gave philly my opinion and told him what i thought he did was wack. So if u want to battle jorge im down, but i really have better things to do. peace.

See you do this often, funny how you KNOW EVERYTHING in music:
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php ... c&start=30

elmacaco wrote:I liked Jorge's beats over all, not feeling any of the MC's and I think it would be better if they were instrumentals, but there was some stuff that I thought was interesting as far as the sounds and stuff. But nothing grabbed me, nothing hit me in that spot that made me go Yoooo!!!!!!

It does seem like they are beats for executives, rather than for the people, and it's the people that buy records. Still I see potential in him, as far as being able to actually make something that makes me go yo!! But it isn't there yet. Maybe some of his newer stuff might be, but it sounds less integrated than what I expect to hear in a beat, the different sounds don't really combine as well as they should. They don't clash, but they don't build on each other yet. Something that will no doubt get better with time.


Question for elmacaco: Where are your beats?

Like you said fam, who has the better beats are opinion based, and I really think your man jorge has alot better control of his equipment to me. And I don't see anyone making ANYTHING but hiphop music, so I don't know what you'll mean by different styles (crazy as hell). See thats why industry cats DON'T like posting online, because EVERYBODY knows EVERYTHING about the Game and NEVER been in the Game. Sh!t makes me laugh!!! I can make the "so called" low end sh!t too, if you can't change your style up then your just a beatmaker NOT a producer, and you suck. Are u trying to tell me if a cat came to you with say 5 thousand for a style of beat they wanted you couldn't make that beat. If so thats sad and you need a NEW hobby. And Binger0 (Djhaze) you had my man laughin hard as hell with some of that sh!t you said about me (you got me on that 15 year vet sh!t) pretty good!!! And the Dynamic Producer is my home girl Felisha's thing http://www.dynamicproducer.com/ and like I said that sh!t can help get producer's NOT beatmakers names out there to see if your ready.
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By jorge guzman Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:49 pm
binger0 wrote:thanks for checking my music out el. I really dont like to battle either, casue half the time the people that want to battle are doing completly diff shi* then what i do. So there is no standard. But i dont refuse the challenge. I really have no beef with jorge or doc or philly, just gave philly my opinion and told him what i thought he did was wack. So if u want to battle jorge im down, but i really have better things to do. peace.


i'll battle, it dont matter but it gotta be on a sunday though cause im busy thru out the week... we can take it whatever style you comfortable with... im not just a sped up vocal beat maker... and the mcs is nice yall just up on that bazooka college radio ish, they spittin real ish reap who to me is one of the nicest cats i had come around is locked up at this moment but he'll be out prolly late 06' so it aint no gimmick rap for executives, yall just cant really relate...

By elmacaco Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:34 pm
I don't post my beats up to the public, some people I respect get a listen to a few, and I get feedback from them that I value more than just everycat on the net. I wouldn't call it hip hop, definitly hip hop influenced, but I'm on some other shyt, for better or worse.
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By jorge guzman Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:47 pm
elmacaco wrote:I don't post my beats up to the public, some people I respect get a listen to a few, and I get feedback from them that I value more than just everycat on the net.


couldnt agree more....
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By binger0 Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:16 pm
jorge im not battling you. And doc please. that dude is a mental case casue i was trying to help some cats out. I defined compression as what i learned and how i have been using it. I dont see why thats a "know it all" thing. U can seriously get of my di**. Its more then what u have done for people round here. So if u feel u have to critize me for understanding the basics of compression get a life. U cats got shit real twisted.
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By docmartin120 Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:26 pm
binger0 wrote:jorge im not battling you. And doc please. that dude is a mental case casue i was trying to help some cats out. I defined compression as what i learned and how i have been using it. I dont see why thats a "know it all" thing. U can seriously get of my di**. Its more then what u have done for people round here. So if u feel u have to critize me for understanding the basics of compression get a life. U cats got **** real twisted.


Fam, ENOUGH already!!! No one was dissin you!!! You know what fuk it (i see you can't take ANYBODY'S critics) so fuk it!!! DO YOU!!! (The Low End Theory 4 LIFE!!!!)
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By binger0 Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:40 pm
no ur just trying to insult me. Not criticize. U think u have one up on everyone casue u joined up with dynamic prodcuer and got a little work. So unless we all do that are opinions and views arent valid? come on dude give me a break. U came at me mad crooked trying to talk about beef from another forum. Then when i am arguing with someone u try and call me a "know it all" casue i helped some kid with compression. mad gay homes. when is philly hip hop back up so u can go other there and chat it up with thouse ignorant morons? they seem to relate to u real well. Im done with this thread. If u want to keep stalking my posts and try to use them to "make me look bad" then keep it up.
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By docmartin120 Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:29 pm
binger0 wrote:no ur just trying to insult me. Not criticize. U think u have one up on everyone casue u joined up with dynamic prodcuer and got a little work. So unless we all do that are opinions and views arent valid? come on dude give me a break. U came at me mad crooked trying to talk about beef from another forum. Then when i am arguing with someone u try and call me a "know it all" casue i helped some kid with compression. mad gay homes. when is philly hip hop back up so u can go other there and chat it up with thouse ignorant morons? they seem to relate to u real well. Im done with this thread. If u want to keep stalking my posts and try to use them to "make me look bad" then keep it up.


U a real PUSSY MAN!!! See I'm NOT even tryin to go there wit u AGAIN but u just can't help yourself. This site and the other you speak of it's the SAME thing with you, cats DON'T LIKE YOU. You probably sit at home on your little computer and bunk studio making out dated beats with NO physical friends in Wilkes-Barre, PA on messege boards dissin people and their music or anything else they do ALL DAY. With your BS theories and concepts on the music industry!!! And actually I DIDN'T get my start with Dynamic Producer PUSSY!!! As a matter of fact who do you know in the "Music Industry" that you talk so often about, I would guess NO ONE. Your the everyday young kid that just started making beats, have a couple of fans online and thinks they are DJ Premier!!!! You'll can think dude is for real if you'll want to!!!