Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By NauticaICE Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:38 pm
say if you have a Synth hooked up thru MIDI to your MPC (ive got a triton)...

And you got a Sequence... on drum track 1 on the mpc you got your Drums and track #2 you got your Midi Synth coming in with some strings

so track 1 is the drums

track 2 is the strings from the triton

how can i add some bass or some compression / eq to that synth so i can make it more bassy cuz right now it sounds real thin like it has nothing behind it ???

do i do that in my digital recorder software program later on when i dump it onto Sonar 4/cubase sx/pro tools ? cuz i dont know i cant seem to tweak it in the mpc

By gaz Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:43 am
I'm assuming that the MPC is sequencing the triton via MIDI, which means the MPC hasn't actually recorded the sound but the sound data ie. when to play what note on the triton. This means any fiddling you want to do with the actual sound needs to be done on the triton itself, only the note data can be toyed with on the MPC. If you're using a string patch already on the triton they might have cut away some of the bass sound with a high pass filter, so go into the filter section of the strings patch and check that out. Other wise you'll need to beef it up by putting through the effects and using eq to boost the bass. I think you're saying you want to boost the bass on the strings, keep in mind that the strings patch might not be the best instrument to get bass from, either play the strings an octave down or make a third bass track. I hope I have understood your question properly and that this makes sense.

By lo-fi Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:48 pm
Layer the string patch with a bass sound or some bassy sounding strings. Or get in there and tweak the string patch as described above.
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By cyrus Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:01 am
^exactly

try adding an insert effect to the patch........use the 7 band graphic eq, then jsut boost the low end.......if it sounds shitty then you need to layer a bass tone with it.

TO do that, put a bass sound on the next track thats open, then go to menu, track parameters, midi, go to the track with the bass sound, change the midi channel to the same number as the sound you want to layer it with......this will allow both tracks to play at the same time. finally go back to main page, and to the mixer, and adjust the levels so it fits good.

peace
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By jaem Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:45 pm
its not that complicated yall.....

three words

low pass filter
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By punkdISCO Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:06 pm
Hi. I think we need a little more info with this one. Are you trying to:

a) add a totally new track (track 3) for a separate bass line to accompany your drums and strings?
b) trying to add bass to your existing strings track 2?

If b and you are trying to add bass to the strings then I would say don't bother. Sure, you can get very impressive string patches that pump out low frequency energy (manufactures love to put these patches into factory sounds as they are impressive) however, quite often this is not what you want as a bass heavy string sound will reduce the headroom for your actual bass and bass drum. The result will be that your bass drum and bass line sound weak..

If you really do need to 'bass up' your string patch, maybe just chose another patch or pitch it down an octave. Its often better to go back to the source rather then trying to fix the symptom.

Jaem mentions a LPF but this might not give you too much of an improvement, mainly just removing the high frequencies, hence the name :) Sure, a LPF will thicken and colour the pass frequencies and with subtle resonance you can accentuate the cutoff frequency a little.

Let us know what the really problem is and im sure we can assist..

Good luck dude..
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By jaem Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:48 pm
three more words.....

high pass filter


as in what you should do to just about all of the other tracks in your mix except maybe the kick. This will give you space and clarity in the low end.
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By punkdISCO Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:08 pm
"three more words..... high pass filter"

three more works for you:

'yeah baby, yeah!'

HPFs for are the dogs-nads. My MS-20s HPF is probably its most striking and useful feature.. Sure you can use it to make room for kicks etc as you also suggest, but you can also use it to accentuate the bass in a bass patch. Simply increase the HPF until you start to cut away the main bass in your bass patch. Back off slightly then increase the resonance - WOW!! The resonance now puts a nasty little spike on the fundamental frequency for a killer sound..

see you dude..
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By Analog Warriors Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:05 am
i'm using a peavey Spectrum Filter ... this unit features a 24db analog voltage controlled filter, amplifier each with envelope generator for processing any input, such as synths, guitar, bass, and anything else you can think off. it can be triggered from MIDI, or audio trigged. it has 3 inputs, CV pedal input, MIDI in/out/thru, and power. envelope generator can be set to single trigger, or multi trigger(retriggers every time you strike another key even if you're already holding one down.) all of this comes in a one rack space unit ... and it's NOT that cheap, if you can find one !

i often use a very DARK :twisted: sounding SH2 patch - but it's own filter doesn't do it for me, Roland filters often sound very cool, but IMHO not in this place - so i'm first bypass the peavey filter and use the Mackie EQ to get a very very PHATT Bass (80Hz + 6dB), and the sweepable Mid (200Hz +3dB) in some "too raw" patches i also use the additional 75 Hz 18dB/OCT Low Cut filter of the Mackie 1604 vlz - at last only turning the cutoff on a little bit on the peavey ... to get a hollow but warm sounding phatt analog bass - that will let you hit the ground when just turning the cutoff up more and more :wink:

then i store some differend cutoff settings to switch between them by using the program changes with my mpc while i'm playing live on stage.

sorry homies ... just coming back from my favourite place, after my studio - da clubs (!!!) and so i'm still "a little bit" drunk and soooooooo stoned - pleace forgive me if i made some mistakes :roll: