Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

By fobedafied Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:35 pm
elmacaco wrote:playing an instrument is much harder to learn takes much more time, many great musicians are self taught, especially the greats (Jimi Hendrix anyone?)

I know plenty of people who studied in great schools and know their instruments well. Ask to hear their music, you might see my point.

It tkaes something different to express yourself as a musician, you can learn all the technical stuff you learn by playing other people's music by playing your own music (except sight reading, but again, that's for session players, if you are a producer, you are not going for that).

It is a waste of time, an MPC is more akin to sheetmusic and a pencil than a guitar or piano, it is geared to write songs on, arrangements, beats, etc. You need to think in that grand picture sense, and get good at putting your inspiration into the music and sequence. Studying other producers that don't really know much more than you do is a waste. put these guys on a pedestal and try to climb them (or ride them), and you'll never be half as good, just another cheap knock off.

Talk to songwriters, they are hardly ever very good at instruments, just enough to get their ideas down and write good songs. Eye on the prize not on some sucker who's closer to it than you.


well, i dont know much bout PREFUSE73 at all... i was hoping to maybe learn a bit about this guy in this thread, since ive heard his name a lot lately and havent heard any of his music except for the GHOSTFACE and EL P collab... but i can see now that i aint gonna get much info outta this thread...

anyways, as for learning from others... EVERYONE does it, you just gotta use what you have learned and evolve... everyone is gonna sound like their inspiration when they are first learning... that just comes natural...

elmacaco, i got nuff'spect for you and your opinions, you know your chit... i understand what you talkin bout peops who are extremely educated in the music field, but aint really doing much with their "knowledge"... i have experienced it firsthand with some of the instructors ive had in the few music classes ive taken at community college... but seriously, even the great Jimmy Hendrix had people that he looked up to for musical inspiration... one example i have is Arthur Lee, from the band LOVE...
Jimmy was totally in love with Arthur Lee, and you can find a little evidence of that inspiration in a lot of Jimmy's music... do a little research and you will find that Jimmy Hendrix & Jim Morrison were both INFATUATED with Arthur Lee and his band... and they are two of modern music's legends... my point is that EVERYONE has some outside musical influence that is inspiring to them to the point that they want to make their own renditions of music, which of course, in the less advanced stages of progress and evolution are going to sound very similar to the artist which inspired them in the first place... some people progress past these initial stages more rapidly than others, some it takes a while longer... but i dont think ANYONE wants to get stuck in those beginning stages forever!!!

hopefully the point im trying to make is evident... STAY TRUE TO YOUR INSPIRATION, BUT ABOVE ALL, DO YOU!!!

By fobedafied Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:52 pm
Antonym wrote:
Does anybody have any insights on making tracks like his


!!!!!!!!!!!! how's this for "get your own style ****"

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for march 23rd, 2005


oh yes, i also greatly enjoy the musical stylings of prefuse 73. chocking you is one of the greatest electronic hip hop tracks in my opionion.

but back to my original smartass point -
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get your own style.


danm, there was a lot of posts posted up while i was writing mines, im a lil buzzed so it took me a minute to write it but anyways... that pic in your sig man, what mpc is that memory for, just curious...
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By dubmunkey Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:04 pm
do a little research and you will find that Jimmy Hendrix & Jim Morrison were both INFATUATED with Arthur Lee and his band...

>>>>>>>>>>>

its because love were the bomb- one of the most underated bands ever- no question...

greg

By fobedafied Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:05 pm
dubmunkey wrote:do a little research and you will find that Jimmy Hendrix & Jim Morrison were both INFATUATED with Arthur Lee and his band...

>>>>>>>>>>>

its because love were the bomb- one of the most underated bands ever- no question...

greg


roger that!!!
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By dubmunkey Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:54 am
elmacaco wrote:Damn yo, that was a really cool response. I never thought I'd see the day where beef would end so quickly.

I gotta give you props again for keepin cool like that, that shyt was exemplary, you're a better man than I thought.


take your nose outta his arse! :shock:

greg

By fobedafied Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:03 am
dubmunkey wrote:
elmacaco wrote:Damn yo, that was a really cool response. I never thought I'd see the day where beef would end so quickly.

I gotta give you props again for keepin cool like that, that shyt was exemplary, you're a better man than I thought.


take your nose outta his arse! :shock:

greg


Whoa! :o

By elmacaco Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:13 am
Nah, the man deserves respect for that, name one other beef that was killed so quickly and well?

If my nose is in his arse, it smells better than your girl's gash. ;)
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By dubmunkey Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:58 am
i was joking elcaco....it seems i read you doing the same thing in another thread; to me its all common sense what mwalker said but hey feel free to praise, praise and praise again....i just silently said amen....mwalker is one of the more maturer cats here- always has been

what smells better your nose or his arse?!?!?!?!?!

:twisted:

greg

By elmacaco Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:26 pm
Yeah I know, I like to get raw sometimes, hence the smiley ;)

Nah man, there was a time when long ass fights were about with Mwalker in there, I think homie's grown.

By mwalker Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:52 pm
naw, homie has been grown awhile, he just better understand the audience. 8)

By elmacaco Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:04 pm
Fa'sho.
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By dubmunkey Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:37 am
thats just the thing i haven't always agreed with m but from the start knew he knew his shit from the way he spoke and held himself so never seen him as purveyor of beef- now you on the other hand el..... :P

greg
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By binger0 Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:03 am
els a scumbag. :D