Scientist! (Dance Hall)

At this late date I found myself falling in love with Dancehall more & more!!


Can anyone talk about the some of the Production Techiniques he uses??

if your talking bout, scientist as in king tubby vs scinetist, then its not classified as dancehall, but rather dub, its all mostly analog stuff, mixer, spring reverbs, space echoes, and flangers, u end up mainly using the desk as an instrument more than anything else.

I saw a video once with Mad Professor using Reason.

Wah gwaan skala? Man fine?!

AFA prod. tech. first thing, is that Jamaicans are MUSICIAN, I mean INSTRUMENTISTS. i.e Sly would play drums live pon MP during the entire 3'50"... same thing for bass, keys ect...
Not saying that there're not rec patterns, but just keep that in mind.
Second: most famous producers in JA are engineers FIRST (Tubby, Perry, Alimantado, Mad Pro ect...). So like skala said, the mixing deck alongside FX are producers favorite. Talking bout DUB music...

What you're calling "Dance Hall" is the Hardcore side of Reggae. Newer producers like JonJon, Jeremy Harding or others use musicians and electronics machines such as MPCs. Jammy's sons have got ALL MPC models at St Lucia Road...
I know J Harding, Dave Kelly and others use to use either software or drum machines to do dem stuff...
Despite the fact that a lot of keys & drums sounds (specially in "early Dance Hall Style") cames from off Korg M1 & RLD SPD, Jamaicans producers are trully involved in it, so no reason not use Reason, PT, and all king of nu technology!!
However, at Anchor studio (dat is one of the besrecording place ovadeh) they're really proud of the 3 NEVE's desks, and Studders recorders; while they can mix via PT or Otari DtD... Skilfull at keeping the best of analog with the best of digital

Kilowax wrote:AFA prod. tech. first thing, is that Jamaicans are MUSICIAN, I mean INSTRUMENTISTS. i.e Sly would play drums live pon MP during the entire 3'50"... same thing for bass, keys ect...
Not saying that there're not rec patterns, but just keep that in mind.
Second: most famous producers in JA are engineers FIRST (Tubby, Perry, Alimantado, Mad Pro ect...). So like skala said, the mixing deck alongside FX are producers favorite. Talking bout DUB music...

What you're calling "Dance Hall" is the Hardcore side of Reggae. Newer producers like JonJon, Jeremy Harding or others use musicians and electronics machines such as MPCs. Jammy's sons have got ALL MPC models at St Lucia Road...
I know J Harding, Dave Kelly and others use to use either software or drum machines to do dem stuff...
Despite the fact that a lot of keys & drums sounds (specially in "early Dance Hall Style") cames from off Korg M1 & RLD SPD, Jamaicans producers are trully involved in it, so no reason not use Reason, PT, and all king of nu technology!!
However, at Anchor studio (dat is one of the besrecording place ovadeh) they're really proud of the 3 NEVE's desks, and Studders recorders; while they can mix via PT or Otari DtD... Skilfull at keeping the best of analog with the best of digital

Tell me in a little more Detail about Dub Technics. What's a RLD SPD

I seen Scientist mix a live show with Fully Fullwood band (de best) on riddim and Mikey Dred on the mic. Mikey was calling all the shots from up on stage and Scientist was dubbing it out live on the big board in the back.

At the same show, Adrian Sherwood DJed (selected?) beforehand (ill plates!) and the last act was Mad Professor dubbing live off 2 ADAT XTs with Lee Perry on the mic (mystical to say the least). The system at that show was badass too, like 12 4x18 EV bins. Illest show I ever saw right up there with PFunk and Lee Perrys first US tour.


Stress,

Check out the Dub Scrolls site for old school dub production tips- http://www.interruptor.ch/dub.shtml

RLD SPD is Roland SPD sampling drum pads. A drum sampler you play with sticks.

GrantB wrote:I seen Scientist mix a live show with Fully Fullwood band (de best) on riddim and Mikey Dred on the mic. Mikey was calling all the shots from up on stage and Scientist was dubbing it out live on the big board in the back.

At the same show, Adrian Sherwood DJed (selected?) beforehand (ill plates!) and the last act was Mad Professor dubbing live off 2 ADAT XTs with Lee Perry on the mic (mystical to say the least). The system at that show was badass too, like 12 4x18 EV bins. Illest show I ever saw right up there with PFunk and Lee Perrys first US tour.


Stress,

Check out the Dub Scrolls site for old school dub production tips- http://www.interruptor.ch/dub.shtml

RLD SPD is Roland SPD sampling drum pads. A drum sampler you play with sticks.

I love Yaw!

Illest show I ever saw right up there with PFunk and Lee Perrys first US tour.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

damn i don't think i could be more jealous!! im too young so can only wintess p-funk through the live dvd....would love to have seen them for real!! sick!

greg

Mad pro uses all types for his beat makin, G4, G5, even an old atari st.
Thing about him is his mixing though, the man builds his own mixing desks!!!! So his sound is unique.

Until last year I use to rent one of his studios and picked up a lot, (when he is in the bloody country)

With a four tracks deck machine makes some music like King Tubby does and all the older reaggae...
They don't Pro Tools or computer some mc can put their flows live, while the Lp is burning. All hardware and analogue.

There something magic with jamaica music and i don't speak ragga etc but the ska, rock steady, reaggae, dub Nayhabinghi..

^^^^^
definately true, when i was living there, (kingston 13, born and grow) i realise that the vibes are far different from here in england, or in the states. capleton and david house, fire links, sizzla, is like dem man would come in the studio with thier ights gold and green flags, chilum pipes and go in the voice booth, when they be cuttin dub plates, which is the version being played or a cd, through the desk and the singer performing live, while its being cut on a plate, that is just astounding, it really is, david house would perform the "live overdubs" for eg.

"and we bun dem out"
bun dem out

flags waving, chilum blazing, man beating the studio walls, man making gun sounds pram pram, yeaaaaaa, "let it go" let it go" shakers. all this going on the plate, while the engineer, steven stanley he mixed most of sizzla albums, would be on the fader riding it, cutting the eq, crating the punch and lines. this plate or special would then go to the sound systems.

there was a studio called cave man studio. off chisolm ave.
i learned that a equipment dont make a studio, but who passes through.
there were like some splintered sound boxes, with 15" and tweeter box on top for monitors. a mixng desk that , i wouldnt even go there...
turntable, dub cutting machine and a dat, few outboard, as in few, eq.... delay and reverb ( amust have) i think jah mason album was recorded there, the first album if you listen carefully you could hear evry damn thing in the back ground, from ganja blazing to man a chant. absolutely mental. tht place was absolute;y fun. i never experience vibes like that anywhere else, 12 tribe , bubo, nuff rass. and every one would strt sing the punch lines, anyone who in the studio would come together and do over dubs or punch
when i hear about jay z being great cause he could flow in a few takes, or 2 pac writing a song in ten minutes, i just laugh to myself, from i was five i could remember man , just take a mic. sound the engineer, and tht was a wrap, in a matter of fact they never wrote , it would last more like 10 mins, but would have to editied down. from sleng teng a run, and crazy riddim. dx7 skanking. oh man.

u probaly wondering why i am going on like this, i just cought myself and now i am home sick i miss home man, really do. and this post was bring ing back some memories.

oh btw, its all changed now. evrey studio, has pro tools, including the bedroom studios, and automated mixing. long gone are the days analog, thts why when u listen now, it sounds so sterile, elmacaco did mention tht pro tools has a sound of it own, no bass middy kind of sound and it is true. the whole scene has changed, the funny thing is tht in the states and europe, 2 inch was an "elitist recording format.
while in ja it was just the standard.

yup pt will never beat riding the faders and auxes...

greg

dubmunkey: And don't forget playing on the midrange eq lee perry style.