How to get that bass sound

I need help.
I've got a lot of plugins to shape the sounds...
i wanty that dry, phat bass.. Wich freq should i work with?
How can i get my kick drums sound heavier, to get a reall kick comin' out the speakers?

try a search on for compressors, limiters, and eq.

I need help.
I've got a lot of plugins to shape the sounds... Soft synths or wave generators?

i wanty that dry, phat bass.. Wich freq should i work with?
Spell check? What are you using keyboards, samples or a tone generators? THAT sound is pretty vague brother...experiment Try tuning down random noises and see what you get if you are only using the MPC

How can i get my kick drums sound heavier, to get a reall kick comin' out the speakers?[/quote]

All your sounds should come out of your speakers unless you are doing something wrong. I would use better samples if your kicks sound weak, or you can tune them down and hit them with a filter, or you can EQ them, or you can just push them up in the mix, or you can clip them when recording to give you more of a crunch, or you can even record it as a stereo track instead of a mono track to get a "wider sounds". You can always gate a sine wave to your kick also, or you can add a slight delay on your kick track, sometimes I like using a slap back. To be honest I usually cut the lows quite a bit on a kick mix because the low frequecies have a tendency to mesh with the bass frequencies...I kinda like my kicks more in the mids than lows, and they sound more punchier that way. There are a lot of tricks just play around with it, or give a better example.

700hz

greg

Starting off with good sound sources is a basic.
You can clean up and enhance some bad stuff, but usually not.

However, a mix is what you are trying to make. People get this twisted all the time. Each individual sound in the mix only serves the whole mix. So, it may not matter that your kick sound is too thumpy when it is heard in isolation. It's not supposed to be heard in isolation.

It's the mix that matters.

Peace.

what if i EQ it a bit and make it hard and louder, and then limit it? it wouldn't distort right?

well what happened when you tried it?

greg

well, i did what i said ( EQ & Limit ) it sounded better. Quality is not the issue cuz it really sounds clear, but it wasn't that sound i was looking for. Maybe i should bring up the kick in the mix..

don't try too hard for bass. I get pretty good bass, but all I do is use basstoness,1080 or low end theory, but I think the key to me is just finding a good groove that fits the melody, so what I do is go to track mute and mute out all the sample but the melody and kick drum. I play around with a few combinatons until something fits, but another key which I think puts bass over the top is to distort is and warm it up. I use my AW16G's effects for this, just a tad bit or distortion and compression makes your bass come out

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well there is bass and then there is bass.....

greg

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what is that supposeed to mean?

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what is that supposeed to mean?

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it means just because someone says don't try too hard for bass that you should listen to him- a lot of my favourite signature bass sounds come from artists who spend a lot time cracking the bass sound- thats not slagging your sound off in anyway but the sound you achieve may not be the one toninho wants- i for example lust after the daft punk bass sound and you can't tell me they didn't spend ages perfecting it...they are engineer trained, they use it and it shows....

greg

Go through your plugins, find something close to the sound you want.... and then use your ears. Try different types of eq, try different compressors... learn what your gear can do by using it. And, finally, you do realize what kind of useful info you can gleam from a few well chosen words and a good search engine? There's more than enough primers & tutorials out there on bass... read a few, and you'll be suprised by how much easier it gets to dial-in your sounds the more of them you read.

Peace

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what is that supposeed to mean?

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it means just because someone says don't try too hard for bass that you should listen to him- a lot of my favourite signature bass sounds come from artists who spend a lot time cracking the bass sound- thats not slagging your sound off in anyway but the sound you achieve may not be the one toninho wants- i for example lust after the daft punk bass sound and you can't tell me they didn't spend ages perfecting it...they are engineer trained, they use it and it shows....

greg

I guess I'm not to familure with daft punks music, I do more hip hop where the focus is in the drums and manipulation of samples, But I don't like to try to hard, I just like my music to flow, If I'm working to hard that means I"m forcing it. But its always good to experiment to see what to come up with, but don't try. Just let it flow.

Thats different to designing a bass sound...i generally write my lines first with a basic patch and then in the mixing stage go for the sounds i want so it doesn't stop my flow at all as the mixing stage should be separate to the composing stage- just different ways different people work...


greg