Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000

By Altopiano Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:45 pm
hy ikke - never did it but try this:
in qlink setup set up different parts controllin different programs and parameters and on qlink send set the controllernumber your midi controller is sendin out. should work imo - hth

By deaf-mute Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:11 am
Altopiano wrote:hy ikke - never did it but try this:
in qlink setup set up different parts controllin different programs and parameters and on qlink send set the controllernumber your midi controller is sendin out. should work imo - hth


I was having the same issue but the other way round... I want to control
a couple of external gear with a few of the q links but, you can only use them if you are on that same track in the main window.

I would love it if you could not only choose the controller, but also the midi port and channel where the data is sent, making it a real LIVE controller.

Peace

Andy

By bleepfreak Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:28 am
Hi ikke I think the following should work:

- Set up the controller as destination for your parameters in the modulation matrix for both programs.
- assign both programs to the same channel in multi > midi e.g. 1A
- route port I to INT a
- send the controller from your external instrument on channel 1 to MPC in port I

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By ikke Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:00 pm
bleepfreak wrote:Hi ikke I think the following should work:

- Set up the controller as destination for your parameters in the modulation matrix for both programs.
- assign both programs to the same channel in multi > midi e.g. 1A
- route port I to INT a
- send the controller from your external instrument on channel 1 to MPC in port I

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YES. :D This should work.
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By ikke Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:04 pm
problem now is that when triggering a sound, the pad triggers the pads from all those programs on channel 1..

By bleepfreak Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:18 pm
Hi Ikke you could change the span in multi mode right? Or use different padbanks in both programs.

You could also try this:
for recording notes in the sequencer you can use parts
for recording controlling you can use INT-A/B

By renegadebliss Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:20 pm
Hi Ikke,

First off, to address your specific question on the UC-33e. You asked this:

"is it possible to control different parameters from different programs with the same external midi controller (uc33 in my case) via 1 midi port? "


The answer is YES, but not because of the MPC 4000. The reason is, is that one of the
features of the UC-33 is that each controller knob and fader on the UC-33 can be it's
own Midi CC and MIdi Channel. So let's say you have 3 Programs on the MPC.
Program 1 is Midi Channel 1
Program 2 is Midi Channel 2
Program 3 is Midi Channel 3


Let's say you want the UC-33 to control all 3 cut off frequencies of the fitlers for those programs.

You will need to go into the Program Modulation Window for each of those programs and set a Midi CC to control the Filter Cutoff. For this example, we will set that Midi CC to be CC#88


So now that you have each program responding to Midi CC# 88 on their respective panels.


You just have to go into the UC-33 and program each know. Let's say we are using
knob 1 , 2, & 3 ... Set knob 1 to send Midi CC #88 on Midi Channel 1, Set Knob 2 to send Midi CC#88 on Midi Channel 2, and Knob 3 to send MIdi CC#88 on Midi Channel 3.

Now when you play the MPC 4000's song, you can turn knob 1 to change the cutoff freq of the filter on Program 1, and Knob 2 will change the cutoff freq of the filter on Program 2. and the same for knob 3 for Program 3...



Once you have things setup like how you want, you can also create a blank program with all the Midi CC that you usually use, and then set that as a default, so that this will be all
automatic. Then you can setup Memory Presets up on the UC-33 that correspond
to your Programs. Then you can create a template to overlay your UC-33 with the LFO, Filter, Envelopes and such all layed out like a traditional synth....


*** For those that have a Midi controller that all the knobs will only send on 1 channel **

Now that I had filed my Bugs to Akai in Feb to the [email protected], I was in the process of writing up some more RFE's (Requests For Enancements) and was about to send it off to the address, when I heard from this Board that they cut off that address.


One of my RFE's, was a request for Akai to implement an additional Modulation Matrix. But instead of this being Program Modulation, I was suggesting a Mulit Modulation window, where it provides AT LEAST 64 if not 128 slots for each Multi.

Some of the benefits of having a Multi Modulation window would be:

* You can have 1 LFO from 1 program control the Filter Cutoff of other programs so you could have program 1's LFO controlling Program 3, 4, & 5 's Filter Cutoff.
But not just LFO, but any of the internal parameters. Also, the LFO's for the Programs 3, 4, & 5 can now be doing other things, as they do not need to do the cutoff , as Program 1's is doing that.... kind of like interslot communication on the Nord G2, this would allow
for interProgram communication on the MPC.

* Same concept but for any Midi CC message

* One could setup Midi CC of Mixer page (as that's a Multi Item)

* One could setup Midi CC of FX page (as that's a Multi Item)

* One could setup a Midi Clocked Synced LFO to control FX level or FX parameters


* There's more that could be used, but since Akai cut the address off, I stopped figuring
out other items that could be inlcuded....


** Along with the Multi Modulation window, I have indicated that one should be able to specifiy a specific Midi Chanel that the selected items on the Multi Modulation could respond to.

So you can setup Midi in A Channel 16 to be routed to the Multi Modulaiton window and that a flag be able to be selected on the Window, if you want a parameter to respond to that Channel. That way you can have your midi controller set to Channel 16 and going in on Port A and then have your Notes going to the normal channel.




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All these would just put the 4000 that much more over the top in regards to programability, but at the moment, I can't see any where to forward them to.


Cheers,

Dave
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By ikke Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:32 pm
Thanks, Bleep en Rene :wink:

By deaf-mute Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:39 am
I just sent your feature request to akai... I have one of the tech guys
adress at akai..

this would be one of the best features and open up a whole new scope to live use of the mpc and some sick studio tool....

peace